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No fuel coming out from injector hose 1 200 1984

So I have no fuel coming out of injector hose 1?…..B23 Kjet…time to rebuild the fuel distributor? Was running fine before, but pulled it intake off to do the flame trap, was sitting for about 6months dismantled. Runs rough on 3 cylinders with no fuel coming out of injector hose 1. Thanks








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    No fuel coming out from injector hose 1 200 1984

    If you do the reading, opening up the fuel distributor is not advised unless you're prepared to go the whole distance. Only once was I tempted to dissassemble it for an inspection and cleaning before doing the reading to realize what was involved, that a rebuild kit would likely be needed and the C/O re-adjusted. It was at that point I started to occasionally use fuel injector cleaner additive in the tank to help keep the injectors from fouling on a well worn engine. Poor and uneven injector spray patterns were my basic issue at that time, probably from using cheap gas and doing too much city mileage.

    I think Nahtanha is likely correct. My reading also suggests that when one port is clogged that varnish on the port screen is a likely issue for a car that's been sitting for a long time. But for a car that's been sitting, there's also the chance that rusting has occurred in the distributor which could also be retricting flow, blocking a port or fuel line. If one port is fully clogged I would expect the others to not be far behind. Although you could try running the pumps and measuring the flow rate out of the other injectors to see if other ports are starting to plug, I really don't see the point.

    As many of us know, getting rid of varnish is not a simple task just using cleaners, especially cleaners that won't destroy rubber seals. My initial thought for you was repeated overnight soakings and attempts to back flush using a syringe in the hopes of at least partially opening up the blocked port using a top injector cleaner concentrate like Techron, Red Line, Lucas or Gumout, maybe even SeaFoam, but I just found something better for you.

    Here's a good YouTube video on rebuilding the fuel distributor where one of the steps shown is pulling the screens out for cleaning with a long threaded screw. If you only need to do the port screens then you will not have to fully dissassemble the distributor or readjust the C/O. It starts at the 6 minute mark.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySdtAHvKEeE
    There's no audio and you may have to bear through and skip a few ads if you don't have an ad blocker. In case that video link should change or disappear, it's on the Restoration Apprentice channel under the title "Bosch K-Jetronic Fuel Distributor Rebuild // 1985 Porsche 924 Restoration Project"

    Maybe just pull the blocked one first for initial inspection to see if that's the problem. If not then prepare yourself for a full overhaul. Kits are available, which don't appear to include the screens.

    The video later shows cleaning the screens in citric acid. If you do the reading, citric acid is supposedly slightly better than vinegar (acetic acid) for dissolving varnish. You may have to do a little hunting for citric acid. It can often be found in powdered form in places like health food and bulk food stores. It's a weak acid so don't be afraid to make it fairly concentrated.

    If you want to try soaking and flushing the entire distributor I would only use fuel injector cleaner or gas. Remember to blow any residual cleaner out with lower pressure compressed air (like the 35-45 psi that we know the fuel system is designed to handle) before firing up the engine.

    Hope that helps. Please post back with your results for the benfit of others.
    --
    Dave -still with 940's, prev 740/240/140/120 You'd think I'd have learned by now








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    No fuel coming out from injector hose 1 200 1984

    Your system has gasoline varnish in the line and screen. Time for a cleaning.








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      No fuel coming out from injector hose 1 200 1984

      The question is how to get the cleaning done. How to get the varnish out of the clogged path through the fuel distributor without taking it apart. I don't claim to know the answer.



      Click for the big picture. Background is Australian soil; I'm sure this was not the workbench for disassembly.

      --
      Art Benstein near Baltimore

      Injector Spray Video








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    No fuel coming out from injector hose 1 200 1984

    Hi,

    Are you judging the output from the hose with the injector off of the hose or on it?

    These k jet systems operate on pressure being over a certain amount, like thirty-five psi or they don’t open.

    I have never opened up a k jet system but have my green books on my 1978 B21F engine to study them.
    As I remember there are filter screens involved within the distributor and maybe even the injectors themselves.

    The 1984 years was also the beginning years of the LH 1.0 system with the B230 engine, so is some ways, you could or might have a mixed bag so identification issues happening with the external components being put on the car.

    Keep posting more facts on the car and maybe more information will come forth from others.
    I should be able to look up the location of those screens for you.
    If the car has ever been exposed to old gasoline, that in itself can be the whole problem.

    You will have to get real friendly with solvent or fuel cleaners to minimize any tear down.
    The fuel distributor is a finely made and precision piece of equipment. Cleaning will be your first best option.

    Phil








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      No fuel coming out from injector hose 1 200 1984

      Hi,

      I pulled the injector hose off the injector and no fuel is coming out while running on 3 cylinders. I am in Australia didn’t get to LH till 1986. Thanks








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        No fuel coming out from injector hose 1 200 1984

        Hmm,

        That’s interesting that the LH wasn’t available in your neck of the woods until 1986.
        I wasn’t aware of that or your location.
        By then, maybe you missed the trials and tribulations of the 1.0 system of … One year only runs of some components.
        The engines also moved around from a B23 to a B230. Compression adjustment and so forth in various localities or countries. California being on their own most of the time.

        From what I can tell my 1984 LH I1.0 engine is a little more low end torque minded than the my 1986 MPG wagon with the LH 2.0.
        Maybe from the Differences being the changes going on in fuel management systems that continued on while moving in and around the turbo car adjustments throughout the eighties.
        Marketing was a big deal in Volvos having an up swing in sales volumes.

        Are you going to try a deep cleaning routine first?

        I will have to research where those screens are in the distributor. It’s possible they are under the connectors for each hose.
        I just remember a bit about being careful when taking apart the distributor. It involves precisely placing shims internally.
        Make sure that the flap is floating really smoothly up and down. Just a whisper of air is supposed to lift it. So no binding is allowed or the whole engine runs poorly.
        That thing does, mechanically, what the AIR Mass Meter does electronically. If kept clean outside and inside it works just as well, IMHO.
        Just remember what they learn from K jet set the stage of what they wanted electronically.
        Between sales of turbocharged and those emission folks growing into their own fields, the “whips” came out on the engineers and vendors!

        Try poking around for more information on this sites own search engine as it works through google most of the time to get older postings of the K-jet era.
        Those titled by “Lucid” have lots of his personal experiences that I have found helpful.
        He has since passed away so there no direct contacting him anymore. (:-(

        If you fill out a profile you will get noticed more as a member of board with a history.
        Being a contributor by the two options above is totally optional.
        It only takes whatever information that you are personally comfortable with giving.
        I use the monthly Sunday driver instead of Daily as I try to contribute both ways by posting.
        It helps to keep the site alive for all the Model Tabs.

        It beats a magazine subscription as I get to have some input to what I want to read, even if it’s my junk!
        (:-)

        Let’s us know what’s happening as it entertains all the enthusiasts.

        Phil







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