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740 Turbo IAC not functioning 700 1989

Hello all,

I've been trying to track down an idle issue on an '89 740 Turbo (LH 2.2). Years ago my IAC failed and I had a rolling idle. However, since the mechanics touched the car and replaced the IAC it's never really worked right since.

The engine does not compensate when the A/C is turned on (just drops the idle a bit). Before the failure years ago, the engine would clearly compensate (would idle slightly higher when A/C was on). Unplugging the IAC connector, the engine does not run any differently. Clamping one of the IAC hoses also does not change anything.

I've done the other following tests so far:

- TPS is working 100% correctly. Took the throttle body off the car, cleaned well, tested the TPS pins and are to spec. Ensured the TPS connector is good (replaced connector), engine definitely gets the TPS idle signal (can tell a difference in how it runs connected vs not connected).

- Grounding the CIS test point does not change anything with how the car idles.

- IAC valve is functioning electrically. Took off car, checked it is clean inside. Powered the middle pin, grounding either of the outer pins causes the valve to open/close respectively.

As a final test, I made sure the IAC was in the open position and I put it back on the car but without connecting the IAC connector. I got a rolling idle (800 - 2000 rpm) until I reconnected the IAC connector, at which the engine went back to how it's been idling before.

It seems that the IAC is only being given a "close" signal from the ECU but not an "open". I read a post from years ago about transistors going bad in the IAC control loops within the ECU (in their case they only got an "open" but not a "close" signal). In that owner's case, they were able to replace the transistors to fix the problem.

Are there any other obvious tests to check first before I repair or replace the ECU? Would appreciate any help on this.








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    740 Turbo IAC not functioning 700 1989

    After looking deeper into the issue, I believe the issue is not IAC related. It turns out that there is a different circuit that sends a signal to the ECU, pin number 16 that tells it to raise the idle to compensate for air conditioning. I found this out via a Saab webpage detailing the LH 2.2 system, together with my Volvo wiring diagram.

    The engine seems to compensate for other loads such as turning on/off the rear defrost or turning the headlights on/off. The IAC is likely functioning correctly. I'll be looking into the pin 16 circuit at this point.








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    740 Turbo IAC not functioning 700 1989

    Hi,

    I think your throttle plate, is just a cracks width, too far open?

    The IAC has a limited amount of open and closing down range.
    If the throttle is propped open the IAC is out of the picture of controlling anything lower but with enough signal it will respond to make the idle higher.

    It’s just open enough to be overriding the bottom end. It could be as simple as that!
    The stop screw is for preventing the plate, from getting jamb in the bore, as the closing spring pressure into gunk build up.
    Very possible that servicing the throttle body and not getting set back shut closed enough is the problem.

    The ECU should here the full range of the IAC available to it, so it will hold 750 rpm the whole time, despite the A/C load. Of course, this is according to the vehicle emissions decal on the strut tower that allows a plus and minus tolerance. Probably 50 RPM.

    In earlier year LH systems they had a knob on the throttle body and a special wire that got grounded to disable an IAC that had three terminals to move it open and closed.
    The knob was for setting a slower than normal idle speed, with again, a fully closed throttle plate!
    When the wire was not grounded any longer the IAC raised up the speed immediately and the you knew it had the control,
    Newer IACs have only two as its spring loaded as a default to be closed all the time until signaled to open. In your case, this all changed around the 1989 plus years and you didn’t get it.

    The Bottom line is, in both new and older LH’s systems throttle plate has to be set as close as possible to “shut!”
    The throttle switch to “just click” when that plate barely wiggles “to” open.
    It’s best to be looking straight at it to see and any slack movement in the linkage and shafts are eliminated.

    There is play or slop allowed is a sense of wobble, but not in a linear direction, between the pulley and the throttle shaft.
    The “Heim rod linkage” only sets the PULLEY back away from a stop tab.
    It only needs a slight space so its NOT touching to touching up!
    This detail goes back to the Continuous Injection Spray (CIS) days when they use a standard micro switch in the open air.

    The micro switch is now enclosed and engaged on the throttle shaft itself, for more accuracy and damage!
    This TPS is critical to shift programs inside the ECU as it makes power transitions more smoothly!
    It’s gives the ECU a heads up to a changing air flow mode coming about!

    That long post you see within the current following about ripping an ECU open, is well over my head and my best recommendation is to KISS it!
    I believe in “Keeping It Simple, Stupid”. (:-)
    Today’s cars are going obsolete faster than they can be driven to be worn out!

    Phil










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    740 Turbo IAC not functioning 700 1989

    "As a final test, I made sure the IAC was in the open position and I put it back on the car but without connecting the IAC connector."

    How did you make sure it was open and by how much was it open?








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      740 Turbo IAC not functioning 700 1989

      I opened the IAC by taking it off the car and used a battery with jumper wires to electrically open the valve. Positive to middle pin, negative to the "open" pin. I felt the click. Visually it was clear it had opened. I then installed it back on the car without connecting the connector.








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    740 Turbo IAC not functioning 700 1989

    Check your connector. The pins have been known to push back out making poor contact.
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      740 Turbo IAC not functioning 700 1989

      Thanks, I'll check that. Just to be thorough in testing, while the connector is disconnected, what should the pin signals look like when the engine is running? I would image the middle pin to be at 12 V, but what should I be seeing on the outer pins?








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        740 Turbo IAC not functioning 700 1989

        https://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/EnginePerformanceSymptoms.htm#Intermittent_Stalling_FaultyIAC_or_Hall
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