Volvo RWD 200 Forum

INDEX FOR 10/2025(CURRENT) INDEX FOR 11/2003 200 INDEX

[<<]  [>>]


THREADED THREADED EXPANDED FLAT PRINT ALL
MESSAGES IN THIS THREAD




  REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

Wagon 3rd seat (belt options/differences) 200 1993

I recently bought a used 3rd seat kit to install in my 93' wagon. The belts that came with the setup are 3 point, but have no spring loading retracter mechanism. I've seen this setup installed in the past and recall the belts awkwardly hanging from the side ceiling then down to a bolt in the wheel well.

When looking for installation instructions, I came across the instructions posted on on cleanflametrap.com:

http://cleanflametrap.com/thirdseat.html

Those instructions show a belt setup with a spring loaded retractor that mounts to the wall right next to the middle seat retractor location. The setup looks really clean and a lot easier to use.

I've never seen this belt setup in a 240 before. Can anyone tell me about it? Was it Euro only? Is there any way to get those belts?








  REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

Wagon 3rd seat (belt options/differences) 200 1993

You got me curious as I don't recall retractors in the few old 240s I've seen with a rear facing 3rd seat. Doing a bit of a search for you, I see 3rd row seat parts for sale (like on ebay and www.2040-parts.com) and as well Genuine Volvo parts schematics (like on www.volvopartswebstore.com) for 3rd row seats with and without shoulder seat belt retractors. I can't tell what year they were introduced, probably in the mid-1980s, but I imagine they were introduced in all markets more or less at the same time as the body required a lower attachment point and all bodies came from the same Swedish plants. When a car was ordered with 3rd seats as a factory option you would have received retractors as soon as they became available. However, when ordered as a dealer installed accessory there would have been a mix of old and new stock in the parts chain unless Volvo mandated a substitution so that may explain differences in what you see installed.

The retractors attach low on the outside, just forward of the rear seat belt retractors. In your 1993 240, if you remove the side panel (at the risk of breaking the odd plastic stud) you'll see the threaded bolt hole. For people with early 240s buying a used 3rd row seat that has retractable belts, you should first check behind the side panel to see if you have the needed attachment point as it may be difficult to add your own to safety standards.

Note that Volvo calls these "extra seats", so when google searching say
240 seat extra OR third OR 3rd
(use the upcased OR to explicitly indicate equal weighted keywords)

Example photo with retractors (1991 245)
(link to image showing a wagon with retractors)

Example schematic without retractors
(link to Volvo parts schematic showing no retractor)

I wondered if a set of retractable belts from a 740 or 940 would fit a 240 as the rear area is similarly dimensioned and the attachment points are also similar, but the retractor reel is located behind the side panel so will not have a cover.

--
Dave -still with 940's, prev 740/240/140/120 You'd think I'd have learned by now








  REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

Wagon 3rd seat (belt options/differences) 200 1993

Interesting data points. I will check the date code on my non-retractable belts when I get home.

Having lived with the non-retractable variants previously, I'm going to try to find the retractable version. Both storage and use seem much better. I do see that places like Ebay sell generic 3-point retractable belts that I could use, as I am guessing it will be nearly impossible to locate original retractables.

Despite being a 93', my wagon has a weird mix of pre-existing holes for this seat. The wood deck has threaded holes in the right places, and there is a threaded hole in the ceiling for the top mount of the belts. However, there is no pre-drilled hole in the metal floor for mounting the seat catch when opening the seat, despite the directions indicating all cars would have a pre-drilled hole for alignment purposes. *shrug*

Thanks for all the replies so far.








  REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

Wagon 3rd seat (belt options/differences) 200 1993

The 93 I have came with the retractable seat belts for the 3rd seat. The car was from Florida so they were in North America.
I actually took the third seat out of mine because I decided I would never use it for safety reasons. From my understanding, third row passengers would be in the rear crush zone of the car so I don't think their legs would do very well if the car was rear ended.







<< < > >>



©Jarrod Stenberg 1997-2022. All material except where indicated.


All participants agree to these terms.

Brickboard.com is not affiliated with nor sponsored by AB Volvo, Volvo Car Corporation, Volvo Cars of North America, Inc. or Ford Motor Company. Brickboard.com is a Volvo owner/enthusiast site, similar to a club, and does not intend to pose as an official Volvo site. The official Volvo site can be found here.