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Interior Side Glass Cleaner? Colder or Warmer Months?

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A mention of glass cleaner with ammonia as in Windex and the like in the FAQ here:

https://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/BodyGlass.htm

The Windex stuff in colder months does not dry or out-gas or evaporate quickly. The scummy white coating, that turns up black on the paper towel, persists.

For the cold months I use a 91% Isopropyl Alcohol. Yet lacks some manner of detergent or ammonia action. Usually works. Yet not now.

Turning the paper towel no matter the glass cleaner type.

A white coating forms on window interiors inside the 240 passenger cabin. It is way worse in terrible Saint Louis as that in Spokane, WA. Yet the air is well more polluted here in NHL Blues town.

What do you folks use to clean the interior side glass in the colder months or year round?

Thanks.
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7 240s total since 1984. 3 240s today and rotting away.








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    Interior Side Glass Cleaner? Colder or Warmer Months?

    Folks,

    Thank you. Maybe alcohol with a wee touch of the sudsing ammonia like Parsons Ammonia cleaner stuff?

    As Mr. Stevens indicates, using methanol. I guess would not bother the factory back glass demist grid. Also, the interior window scraper flocking appears to get nasty a bit. Replaced all exterior window scrapers years ago.

    In decades past, I do not recall such bother with the pale greasy stuff on the interior side glass. No, the heater cores in all 240s are not leaking.

    The anti-freeze I use treats (protects) the tin in the lead-tin solder mix used in the heater core so far as I read about it. Yet age will catch up. Or another David Samuels heater control valve for 240 sometime soon.

    Thank you.

    MacDuffy's Earl Grey Teat Tavern: Wondering about Uncle Old Duke.
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    7 240s total since 1984. 3 240s today and rotting away.








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    Interior Side Glass Cleaner? Colder or Warmer Months?

    Yes, various cleaners and methods used by many.

    The film never really comes off easily. However a Magic Eraser absolutely does the trick. Don’t use it on the heated rear window though it could damage the grid.








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    Interior Side Glass Cleaner? Colder or Warmer Months?

    remember GlassWax?

    https://holidappy.com/holidays/decorate-your-windows-with-glass-wax-and-stencils








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    Paper towels are made of wood pulp. It will scratch the glass. I only use cotton.
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    In winter, use methanol rather than ispopropanol in your window cleaner solutions. It evaporates at a lower temperature. In summer, it may evaporate too quickly before you get a chance to properly wipe it off, so isopropanol is generally more appropriate then. You can add additional methanol to products like Windex to hasten drying. Methanol (aka methyl alcohol, methyl hydrate, methyl spirits) can be bought in various purities based on water content and for the purposes of window cleaning it doesn't much matter. You can buy 99.9% pure methyl hydrate for cheap in many hardware stores usually in the paint department next to paint thinners, but even fondue fuel can be used in a pinch. BTW, one of the cheapest forms of isopropanol (isopropyl alcohol) is consumer grade rubbing alcohol from your local supermarket, just a lot more water content so quite suitable for windows, not so much for techincial uses such as a contact cleaner or electronics flushing (called technical grade) or clinical applications (called medical grade).

    Here are some general comments regarding glass cleaners and especially auto glass cleaners that I learned back in my lab days. Skip to my final recommendation if it's too much to read.

    Using straight methanol or isopranol for windows may do a good job of dissolving oil and moving it around, but once it reaches the temperature to evaporate it will evaporate quickly leaving a thin film of oily residue all over that still requires a lot of buffing to remove. You need a surfactant (wetting agent) to help keep the cleaner pooled as fine droplets to be more easily absorbed into the cloth before it gets a chance to evaporate. So add a bit of plain dish liquid which has both surfactant and grime busting detergent ingredients. You could choose one like Dawn that is known as an extra good degreaser, but they usually have other additives that may make for a bit more residue to buff off. Dish liquid also includes the all important sudsing agent. Sudsy foam helps keep dissolved oils in the cleaner lifted away from the glass to make absorption more efficient and buffing easier. Add just enough dish liquid to get a tiny bit of foam when you start to rub the glass -much more and you'll just be creating more soapy residue to buff off later. Now that you're making your own primitive glass cleaner, you can add a few tablespoons of household ammonia to help reduce spotting -blue dye or yellow dye with concentrated lemon juice to improve the smell is totally optional.

    Using a good, clean, lint-free, absorbant cloth is key, flipping/changing it as often as needed. If you've done your job right, there will be minimal residue to buff away (microfibre is great for the buffing stage). There is nothing wrong with having to do a repeat application for dirtier windows even with the best of cleaners. Be sure to choose plain cotton over anything with wrinkle free coatings, stain repellants, water proofing or poly blends. If you're any kind of purist, you will avoid paper towels -apart from the lint, if you knew how much silt was in everyday paper products you would never clean your eyeglasses with them. For the same reason also avoid crumpled newspaper -people used to use it for the waxy properties in older inks to give the glass extra shine, but it also made for more reflection, so not advised in auto windows.

    Now having said all that, although Windex is generally a better product than many cheaper house brand glass cleaners, it is still not all that streak free. What may be adeqaute for your house windows may not be for your auto glass, especially the inside windows that don't get rinsed by rain and car washes. A home made formula can often be better for inside windows. Inside window glass, especially the windshield, often builds up a stubborn film of plastic oils gassed off from vinyl dash and upholstery material. It can be very difficult to remove with regular glass gleaners. This is where the commercial cleaners really shine, so to speak. I now much prefer to always use a high quality heavy duty commercial glass cleaner on the inside of my windows and both sides of the windshield. These are typically available in tall spray cans. Good products are not always easy to find even in hardware stores, but auto suppliers usually carry a few. Some of the better ones can often be found in janitorial supply houses and even commercial glass shops -try Amazon, but do check product reviews. Yes, they're not as cheap as supermarket brand glass cleaner, but one can lasts a long time if you're only using it for windshields and interior glass. Problem with spray cans, on really cold days the pressure is often noticeably reduced so a trigger spray might be better.
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    Dave -still with 940's, prev 740/240/140/120 You'd think I'd have learned by now








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    Polish with yesterdays newspaper is my go-to.








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      Interior Side Glass Cleaner? Colder or Warmer Months?

      The main Long Island newspaper switched from graphite based ink to something else years ago--no longer works to clean glass. - Dave








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      Interior Side Glass Cleaner? Colder or Warmer Months?

      How do Kitty!

      +1 on newspaper
      Works far better than paper towel as a cleaning implement in my experience. Spray/spread the cleaner first using newspaper, then follow up with a clean sheet of newspaper to polish as it dries.

      No recommendations on a specific cleaner. Commercial glass cleaners are usually better than the Windex type.

      BTW - Hoping to make my move to Bellingham next spring ...:)
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    Interior Side Glass Cleaner? Colder or Warmer Months?

    ive noticed that too.It also matters to use plain paper towels & NOT the super absorbent kinds they seem to be greasy & leave a film,,,








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      Interior Side Glass Cleaner? Colder or Warmer Months?

      I usually buy the cheapest 2-ply generic "kleenex" for home use. The last time I got some 3-ply by accident and noticed it left a greasy film on my eyeglasses. That leads me to think that fancy, expensive paper towel might also have additives that are are not the best for cleaning interior auto glass. That's another reason for buying the cheapest paper towels. As for what spray or liquid to use, I've tried various specialty auto glass cleaners and they don't really do a significantly better job than plain old Windex.
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      1992 745, >500k km (now gone, but not forgotten)







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