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water in trunk tire well. 200

Well, it is not the real in use tire well. It is the other one on the passenger side of the car in my case. Any time I go through a car wash or the car has to sit outside a small pool of water forms in the tire well compartment.

I know I could get rid of it by drilling a hole but I would like to know the source of the leak. It seems to be coming in from the forward end of the well.

Rear window seal? Would appreciate any thoughts.


Bob








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    water in trunk tire well. 200

    you wrote: '
    """I know I could get rid of it by drilling a hole but I would like to know the source of the leak"""

    searching for the leak has been covered, however "drilling a hole"...?

    By Design.
    You do know that there is a drain hole at the bottom of each of the rear wells. It's about the size of a half dollar coin. There is a rubber plugfixed in that hole, with a rearward facing 1/4 inch spout that is part of the plug..

    In addition on the passenger side, the side with the gas tank filler that has that rubber collar around the fill spout, that too has a drain hole in it, to catch and drain away any splashed gas...there is a Tube running inside the body attached to that drain hole and it runs down to that lower plug nad is pushed thru it. It evacuates any spilled gas to the ground. People who have unexplained gas smell after filling up May find that that spill tube is just sitting in the wheel well and not shoved thru that exit port.

    You should be able to see the port and the rubber plug by looking outside and under the wheel well from the outside.

    What I'm saying is that there is already a hole at the bottom of the wheel well---why you can't see it and the rubber plug is another issue.

    This leads to the possible source of the Leak:
    If the drain from the gas filler collar has no exit the water could be draining from that collar....IF the door does not fit tight -----tho I would think that a car wash could shoot water past the door.


    If this is a Sedan, there are vents along the bottom of the rear window just above the trunk. On either side, inside the trunk there are 2 drain tubes, clear vinyl about 2" in diameter that drain any water that gets thru the vent. Should exit from the upper trunk floor. That is a possible source. Check that they still exit and/or are attached. Since your leak is only on one side the drivers side would be an example of a proper set-up.









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      water in trunk tire well. 200

      There is no hole because there have been rust issues in the past and the body work did not include keeping the drain hole apparently. On the driver's side where the spare is located there is the hole and the plastic plug thing.

      I will explore the water intake possibilities that you outlined, i.e., from the vents [it is a GLT two door sedan] along the bottom of the rear window and from the gas door. I have not noticed any gas smell so that is probably not a prime culprit.

      I haven't been getting to this lately because we have been experiencing a run of bright sunny days and this is when I like to drive the 240. When the rain begins it will be largely garaged and that is when I can get a look at where the water is coming from.

      Thanks very much for your input.








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        water in trunk tire well. 200

        Two door GLT? Aha, I had originally wondered about that and had that in my original post that failed to take hold. If it has a sunroof, the rear drains in the sunroof tray can easily get plugged with West Coast debris and allow the tray to overflow, trickle down the rear pillar and end up in the storage wells. This is most noticeable after heavy rains or a car wash, most especially when parked pointed up hill. The sunroof drain tubes connect into the rear window air vent cavity drain tubes that CeeBee1 mentioned. If anything in those tubes starts to plug up, it's just a matter of time until it backs up to the roof tray. I think there's a whole bunch in the 700/900 FAQ, recent posts here and references elsewhere on sunroof trays and how to deal with the drains. The only caution is not to poke too hard into the drains from above or blow compressed air from the far end of the tubes below such that you might somehow push the tubing off the corner drain nipples as that would require a lot more surgery to access and fix.

        Good luck. And yes, the weather forecast where we both are on Fantasy Island is good for the next few days, but perhaps take advantage of all that nice daylight and before we resume Standard Time this weekend to peer down into the recesses before the monsoons return -laugh.
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        Dave -still with 940's, prev 740/240/140/120 You'd think I'd have learned by now








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    water in trunk tire well. 200

    Before you get carried away talcom powdering every square inch in the trunk, do try the following basic procedure. It worked for me many years ago with my 140, which has the same trunk design.

    Make a bunch of long strips of 3" wide newspaper. Lay them over the gasket all the way around the trunk (with everything dry) and close the lid. Now go around and see if any slide out easier than the others. There's all kind of reasons a trunk lid could get out of alignment, from worn hinges to a misaligned lock to a rear ender to a heavy load bending the trunk opening lip (which may well have been my case as I haul anything that will fit in the rear openingg of the car, eg. a full sized ancient Philco fridge in the case of my old 140 sedan). I found a weak gasket seal in the upper right corner of the trunk. Short of trying to re-adjust everything, try lifting up the gasket in the weak sealed areas and stuff in a spacer wherever needed to raise it up a bit. A thin piece of cord or fat piece of string is one thought, I used a long twirl of plumbers putty. Never had a leak after that.

    Other possibilities include leaky taillight lenses where water can collect in the bottom of the lens cavities (a couple of 1/8" drain holes drilled at a steep up angle can fix the problem until you get around to resealing the lens seams). Another would be if you had a sunroof and the rear drains are blocked with debris -if you've got a sunroof that would actually be my prime suspect -see the 700/900 FAQ for dealing with sunroof drain issues.

    Please post back with how you make out.

    [I've been trying to reply to your post for a few days now, but Jarrod's fiddling around with the site has seemingly been in my way, hopefully this reply will stick]

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    Dave -still with 940's, prev 740/240/140/120 You'd think I'd have learned by now








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    water in trunk tire well. 200

    Sources of water:

    #1 Rear tail light lens. Just pulled out. Cleaned out old gunk. Resealed with RTV.

    #2
    After knocking and cutting the weak stuff:


    Fixed. Inside had to look good for the spare tire.


    #3? Not sure but I think water would be found on the rear floor.


    I have some rusting at the left rear piller. Not shown in the picture. From where?

    Tom








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    water in trunk tire well. 200

    The best method I have found to find leaks. Pull everything out, dry it all. Get some cheap baby powder/talc. Sprinkle/throw on all the vertical surfaces. Close the trunk and garden hose time. Where it is coming in will leave a "snail trail". Good luck.
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