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Do 240 windshield and back window fit a 140 ? Thanks








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Thanks, Doug








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Elaborating a bit - 85 and older has the larger, non-flush mount trim. It's pretty difficult to get off of old windshield without bending it in some way. And almost impossible to remove without breaking the plastic clips that hold it in place. Those usually have to be replaced. 86 and up has 'flush mount' trim.

Here's the real challenge -- any 'new' windshield you buy is for the 86 and up application. It will go into the earlier cars, but the front trim will be different than the rear trim. Furthermore, the older OEM windshields are slightly thicker/heavier than the newer replacement glass. Not sure what implications that has for trying to refit the older trim to a newer windshield.

Last - the newer windshield/trim is slightly smaller than the older trim. So it almost always leaves a 'paint line' when you put the new windshield into an older car. Several folks and some windshield companies remove the new flush-mount trim and replace it with universal trim that is wide enough to cover the paint line. This is the approach I took on mine when I pulled the original 82 glass/trim out (pitted badly) and replaced it with new glass. So, flush mount look and wide enough to cover the paint line.
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82 242-6.2L; '17 Mazda3; '16 Crosstrek








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Can you link or email pics of what you mean. I have a 70 that desperately needs a new front screen








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Be more specific about “what you mean”....what do you want to see?








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Try to elaborate a bit.

1) the style of trim on a new replacement windshield that you buy is entirely different than the style of trim on anything '85 and older. The older stuff has a shiny bit of metal (stainless?) that sits on top of a rubber surround. The newer windshield has much smaller, flush mount rubber trim with no shiny surround. So if you put a new windshield in your older car, the trim on the windshield won't match the trim on the rear window.

2) So, you might say - well I'll just remove the trim from the old windshield, remove the trim from the replacement windshield -- and put the trim from the old windshield on the new one. That way my trim will match front and rear. Well - first off, I was unable to remove the old trim without bending the shiny metal bits. Others may have solved that problem. Second - the new windshield is not as thick as the old windshields -- I suspect that will pose a problem trying to fit the old trim on a new windshield as the old trim is designed for the thickness of the old windshield. However, as I stated before - I'm not sure of the implications because I never tried it. On mine, I just blacked out the shiny bits on the rear window to make it better match the lack of anything shiny on the new front trim.

3) The rubber trim on the new windshields is slightly smaller than the rubber trim on the old windshields. If you lift up the edge of the rubber trim on your current windshield -- where it sits against the paint - you'll see that the paint underneath doesn't look the same as the paint on the car. It's been protected against the elements by the rubber trim - and often there's an actual depression (a 'line') etched into the paint where the edge of the rubber trim has been pressing on it all these decades. Because the new trim is slightly smaller than the old trim, if you put a new windshield in, you can see very clearly that "paint line" -- because the new trim DOES NOT cover it up the way the old trim did. I removed the new trim that came on my new windshield and replaced it with WIDER universal trim that covered up the paint line. My paint line was even worse than most as I'd had my car repainted and simply had them mask at the trim line. I should've had them remove the windshield to do the repaint.

A lot of what's covered above is documented here -- http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=341873&page=2

Start on page two and work your way through. If you want matching trim front/rear - the wild card for you is 1) can you remove your existing trim without damaging it. I could not. 2) Can it be successfully reapplied to the new, thinner windshield? Simply don't know.








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Hello Michael,

That is a lot of good info, however since he has a 1970, his front and rear windshield trims are the earliest style that are made of stainless steel and do not have any rubber parts and can usually be reused.

The early trim is retained by completely different clips. The early clips mount to the body and not to the windshield.

The basic windshields for all 140, 164, 240 and 260(not including 262C and Bertones) are the same and you can get them with or without the trim attached.

And to clarify, the version with the trim attached is for the later 240s. The trim is all black and is low profile but can be used on any of the above mentioned cars.

Here is picture of the later windshield with trim installed in a customer's 1970 145.



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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502
hiperformanceautoservice.com or oldvolvosonly.com








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85 and earlier is the same front glass all 144s. 86 and up is different. 73 144 rear glass and 244 rears are all the same.








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Yes - Dave







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