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Just walked around an immaculate black 92 245 automatic parked on the street.
89k on the clock.
Bright clear plastic headlight lenses, for sure garaged.
Nice to see a fine low mile example.
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ON THE OTHER HAND -- Regarding Mr Nabisco's original post--the 1980 245 w/M46 I've been driving since 2000 was a fairly well maintained example with 127k when I got it as the third owner. The body was straight on top but showed some poor body work in the very rear quarters and the transmission would sometimes slip out of 3rd gear on deceleration. This, despite the car having had a new clutch and supposedly a trans overhaul at about 110k. The 2nd owners had it for 18 years and towed a camper trailer which explained the short life of the original clutch. The car now has over 300k with that replaced clutch still in and I learned early on how to manipulate the throttle so it wouldn't slip out of gear. BUT NOW -- Having nursed it along the last few years mechanically while the body disintegrated with increasing speed - especially the rockers and floor under the driver's side. The car has signaled me it was time to give it up -- between a patched up exhaust, seeping fuel pump, temp gauge suddenly inoperable, odometer working only when the weather was cold and a sand pitted windshield difficult to see through with a setting sun it now has made a final statement. Came out of the house the other day to find a 12 inch long section of the rocker laying on the ground but still attached by a sliver of metal - an obvious plea to end the misery. The 1993 re-incarnation of my former '76 265 with Oldsmobile 215 V8 is near completion - and none too soon. The 245 is (near) dead! Long live the 245! --Dave
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I see so few 240's around here anymore.
There was one white 244 I would see sometimes on a lesser used road that was part of my to and from work route. I would flash the headlights once and the woman driving the white car would always smile and wave. Other 240 drivers seem oblivious when greeted in this manner.
But anyway, on the subject of 245's, a couple of years back I stopped at a nearby gas station and there was this very nice wagon at the pumps. I was almost embarrassed to be driving my '89 which, although it's been the most dependable car I have owned regardless of make, pretty much looks like crap. But the owner of the nice 245 struck up a conversation. His was also an '89 and, as it turned out, he lives about 100 yards from me on the next street north. I see his wagon parked in the driveway sometimes.
I asked if he was interested in selling it. He was not. I asked of he was familiar with the Brickboard. He was not. I recommended the site.
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'80 DL 2 door, '89 DL Wagon, '15 XC70 T6
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I recently had the good fortune of purchasing a '79 244 with 77K one-owner miles on the clock. I'm amazed at it's overall condition. I know I'll probably never recoup my investment, but I guess "pride of ownership" is worth something.
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posted by
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Tue Sep 10 18:19 CST 2019 [ RELATED]
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you posted: "I know I'll probably never recoup my investment"
another attempt to be clear on this my "Can Of Worms"...
Tesla EV Owner tweet...to clarify
https://twitter.com/jrjohnson_/status/1171175375587532800
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posted by
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Fri Sep 6 13:28 CST 2019 [ RELATED]
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"""I know I'll probably never recoup my investment""
Are you kidding, or just not very aware of what's going on.
You have just bought yourself a vehicle that You Yourself can maintain.
With the exception of the Ignition system, Has Zero Electronics.
Depending on where you live, is considered Historic and as such 'grandfathered in' and should be not subject to any NewGreenDeal type of laws that may be passed requiring you to buy an EV or Hybrid, which can be monitored and tracked through the onboard computer/navigation system, has a limited range, and can be shut down remotely or "fenced" electronically...Depending on your Social Credit Score.
Congratulations on your new purchase of a "non-interference" ICE vehicle.
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Tue Sep 10 05:53 CST 2019 [ RELATED]
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(Reuters) - Ford Motor Co said on Tuesday it was launching 17 electric vehicles in Europe by 2024, including eight this year.
The automaker said it expects the majority of its passenger vehicle sales to come from electric vehicles by the end of 2022.
It expects to sell 1 million electric vehicles by then.
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Hi,
Yep, you’re catching on!
I mumbled about this on my posts a few posts back.
There is a big movement, world wide, to move onto electric vehicles! Germany and China are ramping big time! Also a big push on building and selling robots.
If you study just the past two years its going to show there was a large leap effort to increase in market in Europe. I saw some UK stats not long ago!
The makers over there are looking into making a major flood attempt to get as many cars on the road within the next eight years!
The news is dragging here in the U.S. Guess on the reason for that! We are slow.
They are looking at certain materials demands and how this will effect the roll outs!
Phil
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Tue Sep 10 12:54 CST 2019 [ RELATED]
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the reason it's ramping up in Europe is because IT IS MANDATED by the EU(European Union) -- those un-elected -- making up rules in Brussels..."for the greater good".
On of the big complaints about super fuel efficient and hybrid "commuter cars", from State and Local Governments in my area -- Pa, Md, NoVa, DC, was/is that Roads are funded thru GasTaxes. Less/no gas purchases, reduced funding for local and state road repair/renewal.
One of the potential solutions is to charge a per mile fee to the drivers os these vehicles. Well how do you do that? It's called Track & Tax and uses the OnBoard computer navagation sytem in all these 'Green Vehicles' to log miles...Then you will get a Taxed.
And maybe if you fail to pay, your EV gets ShutDown, can't get to work. Simple solution because if you didn't have money to buy gas you cuouldn't get to work under the ICE system of transportation. (Internal Combustion Engine - ICE)
Mandated by Law --- is what you need to keep in mind going forward. The people vying for the WhiteHouse in one party, want to Force the change. EV Good ICE Bad.
Historic antique Volvos are a ticket to avoid this.
That way my point to Votx, when he wrote that he'd never recoup his investment in his 79 244.
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Perhaps the States should tax like Europe? The larger the engine, the higher the tax? I remember seeing a BMW 513 in Yugoslavia years ago... Of course, the gasoline price is over $5/gal, plus the annual tax to register any car.
Our biggest problem is lack of mass transit, mainly due to our spread out population. And how did European villagers get from farm town to the big city: By bus. The mail between villages and small towns was delivered by bus, not truck. So the gov't supplied the buses and charged a minimum for the people.
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Wed Sep 11 10:07 CST 2019 [ RELATED]
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Bloom county
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/fd/e7/73/fde773a3213c04c8d64a688dd53ebfa5.jpg
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posted by
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Wed Sep 11 13:58 CST 2019 [ RELATED]
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here's a higher-res of same ---
http://www.quotationof.com/images/berkeley-breathed-6.jpg
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posted by
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Wed Sep 11 07:37 CST 2019 [ RELATED]
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So you want to give the government more control over your life as in determining what car you drive? Great idea, what could possibly go wrong? Ever have any interaction with the rmv, taxing authorities, etc?
The state in which I live has an extensive public transportation system and on any given day there are delays, breakdowns, shutdowns and their budgets are always in the red. Public transportation is one of those things that sound great on paper but in reality not so much.
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Heck no. I would prefer a carburated engine, wind up windows, no bells and whistles. Whatever I could afford to drive and maintain. A turbocharger bolted to a 1200cc engine would be perfect.
There is no option in the midwest for public transportation, mainly because the gas tax isn't enough to maintain the roads and bridges, never mind creating bus/train infrastructure from scratch. The politicians refuse to increase the fuel tax.
Electric charging with a 120V outlet just won't work. Europe has 240V as standard, so charging times are twice as fast as here.
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Driving an old Volvo isn't going to keep the government out of your road-going business (or those kids off your lawn).
Yes, as electric car use goes up, gas tax revenue goes down (that's the hope anyway). Government will find ways to replace that revenue, be it through increased registration fees, tolls, or tracking mileage. Perhaps all three - plus a gas tax if you're silly (or poor) enough to be out there driving a dinosaur powered vehicle!
Unless you're one of those "sovereign citizen" types that runs around with no license/registration (and pays only in cash) you're already being tracked. They make pretty nice cameras these days. What are you so afraid of anyway?
If you really want to avoid the road tax and being tracked, I suggest investing in a bicycle - a true "Green Vehicle".
-Will
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XC60 / Odyssey
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"What are you so afraid of anyway?"
That is the exact mentality that led us to the constant surveillance state we live in now.
Apathy and complacency. Loss of privacy because, "If you haven't done anything wrong then what's the problem?"
My guess is you were one of the first people to get a doorbell camera.
License plate readers.
Cell phone tracking.
Smartphone listening.
Home devices like Siri watching.
Everybody just gave up their privacy...
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posted by
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Tue Sep 10 15:58 CST 2019 [ RELATED]
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WOW
kids off your lawn
if you're silly (or poor) enough to be out there driving a dinosaur powered vehicle
Unless you're one of those "sovereign citizen"
What are you so afraid of anyway?
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posted by
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Mon Sep 16 13:49 CST 2019 [ RELATED]
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ON AUGUST 29TH, as Hurricane Dorian tracked towards America’s east coast, Elon Musk, the boss of Tesla, an electric-car maker, announced that some of his customers in the storm’s path would find that their cars had suddenly developed the ability to drive farther on a single battery charge. Like many modern vehicles, Mr Musk’s products are best thought of as internet-connected computers on wheels. The cheaper models in Tesla’s line-up have parts of their batteries disabled by the car’s software in order to limit their range. At the tap of a keyboard in Palo Alto, the firm was able to remove those restrictions and give drivers temporary access to the full power of their batteries.
The Economist
Chips with everything
How the world will change as computers spread into everyday objects
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2019/09/12/how-the-world-will-change-as-computers-spread-into-everyday-objects
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It is hard to compare Europe to the USA. Here in the Midwest ( between Rockies and the Blue Ridge), there is no electric car that will travel between cities non-stop. There are charging stations, but who wants to stop for 2-4 hours on a 6-8 hour driving trip?
I am going to Colorado in October, a 17 hour trip. Add 4 recharging stops???
European cities are much closer together, plus there is train travel if you don't need a car when you arrive. We, in the USA don't have that luxury, unless you happen to live between Boston and Washington and along the coast.
Flying is not fun. 5 hours for the shortest route (30 minutes to get to the airport, 2 hours for check-in, 2 hours for the flight, 30 minutes to get where you wanted to be) and it's not that cheap.
I no longer commute. What good is all electric or hybrid? Besides, when it gets -20F, the battery life gets pretty short. Turn on the cabin heater and heated seats, along with the headlights?? LOL.
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I recently had the good fortune of purchasing a '79 244 with 77K one-owner miles on the clock. I'm amazed at it's overall condition. I know I'll probably never recoup my investment, but I guess "pride of ownership" is worth something.
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That's a nice find.
No, I'm not going to try and get that black 245. It's not an M47 5-speed.
I miss my 245 M47.
But I have my 94 945 that just hit 90k miles, so I'm OK.
Was just nice to walk around a bone stock, near mint condition 245. Neat.
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Hi, maybe the car is waiting for someone like you?
Are You gonna be a door knocking buyer?
If you try to purchase it, I hope you pay dear for it!
A find like that needs a sweet deal for the owners who have kept it that way in their life style.
That is, a Dear ole' Grandma must have owned it. 89K, black ....? Clear headlights too?
Might be a Noble or Countesses's car too boot?
Sounds as if it has been unmolested or been moth balled for the right person to come along!
A car purchased with good will and mutual feelings keeps the cars charisma alive.
It's nice to be grateful for jewels found under glass!
My 1992 was inferred to be a diamond in the rough when it was totally refurbished and it was not as young in mileage as this! 243K for $4800 and 3 years and 27K later, it's been just fine.
I get compliments completely out of the blue from others, that want themselves another 240.
The people are not all that old either. They recognized what they gave up as being a solid reliable easy to maintain car.
If this was a used car dealer, or a fast buck car flipping, restoring sham artist, throw all I said above, out the window!
Then it's all about being prepared to crack knuckles tapping on the bargaining table!
If you don't buy it, eat your heart out and wear something like horse blinders! (:) Tunnel vision. (:)
Phil
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