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I've read and researched and figure I'll ask directly...
I need a transmission for a 1991 240 sedan but am confused. It takes the AW70 but they come either notched and not.
The car is sitting at a repair shop so not with me. He's balking at finding me a used transmission but will put one in if I find one. The engine is nice and body has little rust. I'd like to fix it but will have to sell for parts if I can't find a used transmission for cheap!
Is there anyway to find out if I need a AW70 notched or notch-less? Is there a way to convert the notch or make a notch if I find the wrong transmission?
Stupid question from a nontechnical 240 fan...any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Thanks so much...now I know what a notch is! I like Volvos but no mechanic.
No, my guy isn't willing to rebuild the transmission in there. It's messed up. But found one that should work and surprise surprise, he's a Brickboard member, too! Small world. So thanks, Volvo From Heck, I can't wait to drive the fool car in proper reverse!
I bought this car sight unseen and the seller lied like a snake. Got enough back on purchase to accept I bought a beater parts car that needs a transmission. The engine is nice, body little rust for east coast car and it needs a few other miscellaneous odds and ends to trim the sad interior.
Thanks to all who read, got confused and answered that burning question....what is the difference between a AW70 transmission that is notched or not!
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Hi,
Good to hear you did well with the transmission hunt and that a fellow Brickster helped you out.
I need to clarify a statement I made about repairing the automatic with a kit from Toyota.
The man who told me this information was supposedly a recently retired Toyota mechanic in Las Vegas Nevada area.
He was in his 240 as we were both filling up our cars at Costco.
I was in route home from a Denver Colorado trip and that started the whole conversation!
In thinking back to that time, after I posted, I think about “how” he said or “worded his meanings” around the kit.
He said the kit for $130 covered seals and was easy to go through.
He said they, the transmission makers, put these transmissions in lots of cars overseas. Guess Toyota Corporate carries these kits for that reason?
He said the transmission is straight forward to maintain and is quite hardy, “clutch wise,” for a Japanese transmission.
With him saying Hardy, it now means to me, that he was talking about the guts!
As I remember hearing years ago that the Japanese transmissions had paper thin friction discs and were junk.
After seeing these cars and small trucks on the road for years, I think that I was living in an “Era of Biases” against foreign imports.
I’m now pondering that he might have meant that for $130 these transmissions last for a very long time!
So, consequently he may have been telling me that this kit included some wear items? Maybe one set of clutch discs are in there for that price.
$130 for only a pan gasket and screen with a couple lips seals seems a bit much too me, at the time, but I may have missed his intentions.
In your case of no reverse or super bad slippage, it would be interesting to know what the causes are for those symptoms.
The Reverse gearing should be the last “clutch pack” to ever wear out, IMHO, because we drive the least in reverse.
Only trouble is, I know pretty much “squat” on how these transmissions work!
Losing reverse always came first, on a Ford transmission, when it ran low on fluid and I have heard that old or charred fluid is bad news on any automatic.
The manual transmissions will get to be stiffer to shift without service.
So, if you will still have the other transmission and not in a “crunch need” for one now, you might want to do some research to find out if it is a inexpensive fix? Maybe just a cleaning, seals and fluid pressures is the problem!
Maybe someone else reading these posts has or can help with information on these automatics or any kits if we rephrase the thread?
So, you might end up with a spare transmission to use or sell to break out ahead of the “snakes” game on you!
In fact, if you wanted to get your feet wet in learning to be more mechanical, a transmission can be a wonderful inside project during the winter.
If you have the bench top space, pride yourself in being organized and are good at keeping things clean ... It can be better than staring at a snowfall and suffering from cabin fever!
Anyway, just saying, possibilities are not only are where you find them, but where you can make them!
Phil
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My only guess as to how this poor car's transmission could be ruined is the previous owner. The listing was false, the pictures taken to hide the actual damaged areas, and the car history read as a one owner car with normal use. I was taken but managed to get enough back to stop crying in my beer and get it fixed.
Apparently it was given but not yet registered to an 17-18 year old who probably broke the shifter assembly inside the car, along with the center console, and by the diorites, chips, sandwiches, gummy candies, liquid stains and other oddities cramming up the crevices in the shifter and emergency brake area, I'd say must have partied in the car with his pals. Did they joy ride? Field race? He may have attempted to "work" on the car...I don't want to venture a guess what he worked on.
I am no mechanic but have a good one and if he couldn't fix the transmission, I believe him. Almost 25 yrs going to him w/ 3 240s, 1 Saab, and even a Toyota way back.
Anyway, thanks again to all. I appreciate the help!
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Hi again,
In that case you have sited, " You are a smart man!"
Phil
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Did I forget to say "Genius"???!! Yer a GENIUS,Phil!!
If you'll want the old transmission, feel free....it'll be in Franklin Square NY on it's way to the dump once the new old transmission arrives and is installed. In about 2 weeks, I hope. (hint, hint, Dave!!!)
I'm not rebuilding the dang thing nor do I plan on toting it to anyone who might. Up for grabs! It'll be a short window of opportunity as George won't be keeping it around.
I'm buying an 1995 850 with half the miles and will most likely be selling the 240.
Thanks again to all.
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Hi,
I’m lost on this a wee bit because, I only have one car out of six that has an automatic transmission.
On the manuals you remove the bell housing that fits over the clutch and stick it on the next transmission if you find one without a housing of either flavor!
It’s my understanding that your car started out with an automatic transmission so what’s the big deal with the mechanic.
Also I agree with the other poster and that’s cut your own.
It only has to be a little wider than the bracket to allow the transmission to roll away on the way in or out to clear the starter in the tunnel.
I will use an infamous disclaimer that I have never removed an automatic transmission. In fact, I’m about to get my feet wet in changing the fluid out as I almost have 30,000 miles on it, since, I got the car three years ago.
Wagonmeister thinks it was rebuilt prior to him getting the car to refurbish and selling it to me because it was very clean under the car. The car had 243 k on it when I got it.
I was also told that these transmissions can be rebuilt rather inexpensively, because you can get seal kits from Toyota for about $130.00 a couple years ago.
Is there trouble with your transmission or is your mechanic only a R &R parts man?
I’m sure there is refurbished one around. There should be someone with a good reputation, since there are gobs of these transmissions, used in the world, with hustlers wanting to make a living!
Don’t let him panic you into making rash decisions! He may want you to turn the car into pieces!
If he is connected into the trade, he could know something, on the side, besides your wallet location!
Phil
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I've cut notches in several older transmissions to fit them into 1989-up cars.
I use a recip saw and then file/ grind smooth with a stone in a drill, dremel, file ...
Easy enough to trace the notch on paper, cut out the shape, and trace it on the bellhousing.
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240 drivers / parts cars - JH, Ohio
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I don't understand the notch issue. Is there a photo that might clarify it? Thanks
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