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video, sounds like clutch throw out bearing, important to fix now? 200

It sounds like the clutch throw out bearing growls when I push the clutch pedal in.

1989 240

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https://youtu.be/TZ1P1Mc3Fdc

Is this likely to be something other than the throw out bearing?
What would the consequence be of delaying the repair?








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    video, sounds like clutch throw out bearing, important to fix now? 200

    Check the downpipe where it bolts to the support bracket on the bell housing of the transmission. The bracket welded to the down pipe can rust and crack. You can see the down pipe flex away from the bracket under engine revving and if it is cracked it will make a god-awful vibrating sound. A 6" stainless worm clamp can be used to resecure the downpipe to the bracket in pinch.








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    video, sounds like clutch throw out bearing, important to fix now? 200

    Hi,

    I get that your parking brake is set from the instrument light being on.
    This means you are in neutral during the operation of clutch operation.
    At first the clutch pedal is not depressed so it can only spin the input shaft going into the transmission.
    I do not hear any noise from that front input bearing.
    The pilot bearing in the crankshaft is also turning at engine speed so it cannot make noise.
    There is no No pressure on the throwout bearing, with proper clearance, so no noise!

    The above happens until you open up the clutch package by using the throw out bearing with the pedal. I do not hear any kind of spin-up to speed noise. It’s good.

    The next tiny noise, that may occur, is the pilot bearing when the input shaft stops turning. I do not detect that. You would have to be under the car and with the exhaust leak it’s not going to happen!
    If it was bad enough to make noise the input shaft will mostly likely turn and then it would be hard to shift into reverse or all the gears.
    This could mislead one into thinking the clutch is not releasing and makes for maladjusted cables.
    Slack is always needed to save wear on the throw out bearing and engine movement on the motor mounts.
    With all that said, I suggest you to forget about the clutch and transmission.

    Between the two posters it seems the suggestions are pointing to a humming rattle and I totally agree they can be as right as rain in their post.

    I had that very similar sound in the beginning of it turning worse and will write up my experience of what they are suggesting.
    But I first ask for you to make sure that the aluminum heater hose, from the air cleaner to the exhaust manifold, be checked for looseness. There is only one clamp that holds it to the frame and it must stay tight!
    Parts on the “heating stove” of the exhaust manifold can shake the hose against the frame.


    The next one, they talk about, got located within the two piece heat shields because it sounded so tinny.
    These were stainless steel shields tack welded together in the 1986 days.
    They had a fiberglass stuffing inside that shrunk from repetitive wetting.
    I removed them as they could hold water and rust out the pipes faster.

    Later on, the sound came back and it got louder with deeper growl like vibration.
    This was while under the load of between first and second gear right near the top end of a normal shift.
    Coming on at 2300 and really jumping louder at 3000 rpm. I would shift, dropping the rpms and the growl stopped.

    Looking in the same area again, I found a plate with a vibration crack in it.
    This plate is welded on to the tailpipes directly under a transmission bracket. This bracket has a bolt, going downwards goes through a bent adjusting plate. The bent plate has two adjustment slots above it.

    The whole bracket itself is held by two bell housing bolts.
    The lower slots get two studs with a backing plate and nuts.
    Next is a weakness point, is in that there is only One skinny diameter short bolt to hold it all up!
    The long twin down pipes, converter weight, all mounted with rubber doughnuts. All the while the engine swings everything under the car when under torque.

    To get around this “built-in weakness,” I welded both edges of the bent “go-between” plate right on to to the tailpipes own flat strap piece of material.
    This fixed the running/rubbing together “crack” that the last bolt creates. No more loosening bolt!
    I can still removed the transmission bracket from the down pipes, whenever with the two upper bolts.

    No more noise and it stays solid!
    I like welds!

    Phil








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    video, sounds like clutch throw out bearing, important to fix now? 200 1989

    How many miles?

    Between 11 and 13 seconds I can hear, after your 'clutch in' a sound that *could* suggest throw out bearing wear during engagement. Yet could be a heat shield vibration. The microphone or audio processing in your mobile does not allow one to discriminate sounds. Too much bass. Try pressing the area at or around the microphone to the gear shift lever if throw out bearing failure sound can vibrate through the M47 II assembly.

    Check clutch adjust free play, 3-5 mm of the cable at the throw out arm.

    Release the clutch pedal after shift change or after moving to neutral.

    Never maintain a pressed clutch pedal with engine running at a prolonged stop. Depress, move gear lever, release pedal soonest yet safely.

    With free play at the clutch cable, the clutch is fully engaged and he cable is relaxed; not under tension. As the clutch wears, you must readjust the free play at the throw out arm. Sort of an art with the two nuts, adjust and lock, both made of nylon. The adjusts actually adjusts the cable sheath using the thread of the clutch cable sheath spiral wrap.

    With engine idling:

    With proper cable free play, if you hear the throwout bearing "looseness" make noise at full pedal release as a rattling sound.

    If you hear noise added when pressing the clutch pedal to change gears, throwout bearing failure may be immanent. Usually caused by the user maintaining a pressed clutch pedal at prolonged stops with the engine on.

    If high miles with a high mileage clutch pedal, the clutch assembly components may be worn and require replacement. Replace the clutch cable also.

    If low miles, than the cause is abuse by the user. And if so, when was the last time you checked M47 II gear box oil level and replaced? Amsoil SuperShift works very well. What Redline specs for your year and model will work yet may be too viscous a bit in cold weather. Though you make no mention of whine or gear / bearing noise when taking up drive or overrun (coasting to a lower speed in gear).
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    video, sounds like clutch throw out bearing, important to fix now? 200

    I went to the video but couldn't really distinguish the noises. Reving the motor shouldn't be necessary to hear the release bearing - in fact the motor noise would probably drown out the sound of the bearing. Stepping on the clutch pedal with the motor idling should be enough to hear a bad release bearing. The bearing isn't engaged while not stepping on the pedal so any additional sound you hear at idle when you do step down will indicate a release bearing noise.
    How long can you let it go? Who could say. The noise should get progressively louder as the bearing condition gets worse and in the end the bearing could break apart and tear up the pressure plate. You may have lots of time--or not. One thing is for sure--it will not fix itself. - Dave







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