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Burned out. 200 1993

For the last 20 years or so there has always been a Volvo 240 in my life. Prior to that it was always a 122, but that's another story.
Less than a week ago I drove the 10 miles back from work around 11:30 PM and parked the '93 245 in my designated spot in the back of my apartment. I set out my trash and recycling so was near the car for another 10 minutes or so. Then I went inside and was visually blocked off from the car and that area. I started playing around on my computer and soon after heard a yell. I thought 'oh well, it's those folks who work at the restaurant across the street messing around' as they cleaned and closed the place.
When a fire truck pulled up to the front of the apartment I knew something was up and went to the back. The front of the Volvo was in flames and the wind was pushing those flames toward the house I live in. I went out but as soon as I opened the door I was directed by a fireman to go out the front immediately. So I collected my cat and went out the front. By the time I got out to the sidewalk the fire department had smashed in all the front windows and the windshield of my most favorite of the five or six 240s I have owned. And the exterior part of decking and stairs of the house were also burning but were safely put out. So by all accounts I (and other tenants of the house) were very lucky.
The extent of the damage to the car is total and the shell is awaiting a salvage companys' attention. Everything in the engine bay that could burn, did. Plus the dash area is totally burned or melted.
The point of my recounting this drama is to let you know about how the fire started, and urge you to check the fuel lines, etc. on your cars. The fire cheif says it seems to have started in the cabin, but one of the resteraunt guys told me it started under the front of the drivers side exterior.
So regretfully I am done with 240s.
Today I am going to look at a Subaru, which is the state car of Alaska and will probably suit me here in the winter state of Maine.
I will miss that smooth riding 245 though.








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    Burned out. 200 1993

    In my 38 years on the fire department I saw several cars that caught on fire after they were parked.

    The worst was a beautiful Corvair Spyder convertible - the second worst was a restored Imperial sedan.

    In the case of the sedan, a power steering hose sprang a leak which lit on the exhaust manifold - there was a trail to the parking spot!








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    Burned out. 200 1993

    Or what could be the cause?

    Battery fire from a determined short?

    Failed fuel line? Nylon embrittles with age. Seals can fail. Low pressure rubber lines can fail by the inner and outer layer, 'separated' by a nylon or polyester weave, separating and fuel finding a way out.

    Or both.

    Sorry for your 1992 Volvo 240 troubles.

    The final year of a plain Toyota with manual transmission is very attractive. I could rid my self of the 240 ball and chain rather quickly.
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      Burned out. 200 1993

      Maybe the wire harness section that routes behind the harmonic balancer crank shaft pulley. Tho yours is a 1993 and not a 1984 240 with fabulous deteriorating wire harness insulation.

      Yep, the final year of manual transmission Toyota Camry or the like.

      And I fancied moving to a 1998 RWD 90 series someday or even the 1997-98 or so S70 or maybe the first fixed roof hardtop C70 Coupe.

      Meanwhile, back at the facebook Volvo 240 fan club and the 7k+ member Turbobricks page on sheet-faced book, welded open diffs, burnouts, and adding +T from Turbo 700 or 900 series to a normally aspirated 240 rules the day. And these cars all have black brake fluid and split or failing strut mounts.

      The 240 era is ending, eventually. 'Tis a season for everything.
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        Burned out. 200 1993

        "The 240 era is ending, eventually. 'Tis a season for everything."

        Sad but true, Kitty. I see fewer and fewer 240's on the road here in New England. It was a fun ride while it lasted...








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          E240 anybody? 200 1993

          "The 240 era is ending, eventually. 'Tis a season for everything."
          I find the 240 wagons too practical to walk away from. 240 sedans aren't that different from other cars, but the wagons are unique.

          The bodies of the late 240s were built to last and are. What I'm hoping for, because of the engine bay space, is to someday be able to drop in a hybrid or electric motor. The rest, keep the same for its ease of maintenance. (I really don't care for all the distracting electronics of modern cars. Haven't even bothered to try to use all the options the radio has, that I installed a couple of years ago.)

          Any suggestions?
          --
          1980 245 Canadian B21A with SU carb, M46 trans, 3:31 dif, in Brampton, Ont.








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            E240 anybody? 200 1993

            Oh, agreed. The gee whizz bang aesthetic of the modern auto interior and features.

            Sort of like the same empty value as using too may drier sheets to reduce static or add some sort of (sometimes toxic) synthetic odor (like that in fake scent candles or deodorant.)

            Too keep them spending, the new or recently used purchasing masses.

            I'm in no way informed as to a modern, durable, easily owner serviced automobile in the modern era. Yet some of the more mundane Toyota models, and maybe Mazda or Honda, as these seem to endure usual use to neglectful, high miles in a short interval, and such, so I'm told by some indie shop owners.

            There was a recent article reporting the Tesla model 3 tear down, and the report is not good of the mechanics. The battery and battery management system electronics are okay, it says.

            Lithium battery chemistry is on a precipice to change in a few years with far greater safety (thermal runaway) with ever better charge characteristics. I hope that means cheaper, safer in the garage for the masses that choose to own them. However, AC commercial mains, or the power grid connection, to many home may not be up to snuff to charge these cars en mass overnight in the car / home owner garage using three-phase AC power (220 / 240 VAC at high current). To move (swap?) energy consumption from carbon-based gasoline engine to the AC power grid may be problematic. Many that own a home, or rent it, with a garage, may require an ever charging energy storage system that is always charging to boost the current to hasten charging of fully electric vehicles.

            Also, unless you reside in the North America pacific northwest, with much hydro power, most of the electricity come from coal or natural gas (better) carbon-based electrical power generation. The sheet hole named St. Louis with the stupid arches thing is power with around 80% coal fired-electrical power. Other flat land places are in the same boat.

            Folks own the early Prius hybrid and some of teh few fully electric models are are able to busget the daily commute before the battery charge fails so they are able to manage the risk by connection to the home charging station, and the ever more abundant, yet still rare charging stations, and if not free, are rather dear to charge at for the price of a kilowatt. Metered power is lost with each conversion between AC to DC.

            Battery packs can fail in performance and fully fail with age. Manufacturer to offer guidance on battery pack interval which can cost many sevens of so of thousands for a Prius, so I've read.

            The electric car revolution is not quite here.

            So, I'll probably look at the final year of a Toyota with manual transmission and FWD.

            Though if I owned a garage and was better off financially (HA! Say no to fascism.), it would be swell to broach 240 ownership and recurring, anticipative care so reliability is not an issue as the 240 reaches antique age.

            As for a fully electric 240:
            Volvo 240 GL Classic Electric
            https://www.facebook.com/electricvolvo/

            Yet it is the engine, heavy as it is, producing a low HP / Torque to weight ratio, with endurance for the ages, and burns quite cleanly with well-tuned engine control and a light pedal action (I drive it like I love it, or like a little owld man).

            Sorry to go on so.

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      Burned out. 200 1993

      Are you Insane????? a sUBARU?? wHY NOT JUST GO TO JAPAN & ASK TO WORK ON fUKUSHIMA???
      tHEIR ARE STILL PLENTY OF 245 WAGONS AROUND CHECK CRAIGSLIST








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        Burned out. 200 1993

        Well, plenty of friends and family question my sanity. But those questions have nothing to do with cars.
        Fukushima? No, no...I couldn't work there unless I upgrade my attire.
        Ba Bye








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    Been there 200 1993

    I came out of Costco here in 2001 to find a fire truck pumping water into my 1980 (325k) 245 engine bay through the headlight. Pretty much all the wiring was melted, though from firewall back it was ok. Insurance totalled it and I took $ to replace it with 89 245 which I had till 2015 (360k miles), replaced with 2000 Honda crv . Think the fire started with failed rewire to alternator. 2 other friends had couple late 70s early 245's go up in flames. Those were carb/ fuel related.
    Think that 80 would have gone on forever with just a new clutch. Sigh.

    GC

    PS there ARE a lot of subarus here in AK.just make sure if you get a used late 90s early 2000, the head gasket has been replaced. They WILL go at 85k-100k.







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