If I could find the parts locally I would i'd already be done...
IPD has a front bearing kit for about $32....good quality but i won''t get it till probably next thursday...and the only bearings i have found, would include the cost of making out a will.
I line in south Los Angeles county...and you'd think there would be some one in the neighborhood would have'em...
If any one could steer me to a source in LA, Orange, or SB cty..i'd be much obliged.
I am giong to take the front right side off tomorrow, ad re-grease it...
Had i known this would turn into a pirate quest i'd have started sooner...

Thanks as always
Paul
in LA between Disneyland and downtown LA

I'm in South LA.

I also have the same FAG (Fischers Aktien-Gesellschaft) brand front wheel bearings in stock that IPD sells.

I can go to my shop tomorrow even though it is a holiday, after 10:00 am to help you out if you don't want to wait for IPD.

Unfortunately I can't match IPD's price as my price is $43.51 for each set. IPD buys in volume and gets a better discount than I do, but at least I am local and willing to help you out.
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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502

I found SKF bearings and races @ NAPA....everything else was serviceable....and your price (including shipping)is a couple of dollars ore than IPD So I'm. prolly going to cancel the IPD order...
I always need something....cam cover gaskets..oil filters...front end rubber, ...what do you get for plain jane front rotors?
I really appreciate the offer..... Geez where have you been?

Thanks again
Paul in South LA

Well today, I have been hiding in front of the idiot box watching the F1 race at 5am, Indy 500 at 9am and the Cocoa Cola 600 which just ended.

I usually have the normal consumables like quality air and oil filters, tune up parts, engine/transmission/rear axle gaskets, seals, mounts and bushings, brake pads/shoes rebuilt calipers and new wheel cylinders, front & rear axle bearings and more in stock for most of the rear wheel drive Volvos made from 1958-1993.

And what I don't have, I usually can get within a hour or 2.

Give me a call or text me at:

Tree Juan Zero 5 tree tree oh too 7 Juan

or email me at:

"e_hamlet" at hotmail dot com



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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502
hiperformanceautoservice.com or oldvolvosonly.com

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Long as I have your attention..i would like to put new rotors on my 86 240...is there an appreciable difference between the slotted and the solid....Ruby came with solid rotors,,, and the one slotted i tried was thicker than the slotted and did not want to fit....
I put the old rotors back on, and the world seems fine,,,,curious as ever...
I'm off this week...mayhaps I'll come over and see your place...and shop a bit.
Thanks for the feed back

Paul
Somewhere in LA under the hood of my aging fleet of junkyard refugees

FWIW
Solid aka Non Vented Rotors came in the early 240s and they were also used in previous models - the 140's

Vented Rotors are thicker in that the "vents" are now between two faces of the rotor that the brake pads clamp on. Coolers as it were.

The Caliper for the Vented Rotors is wider that the Non Vented.

Vented Rotors---were first introduced on Turbos and then were standard on any 240 after the Body Change --like your 86, which have the Air Dam under the front. That Air Dam pushes air away from the Front Brakes... making the Vented Rotors manditory.

As far as Wheel bearings...up to 1980 the spindle and the bearing were Smaller than those that came later.

If you do indeed have solid rotors on your 1986 240, then something has happened in its history to have caused a RetroFit. The Prev Owner? perhaps. But that would mean that the Rotors and the Calipers were replaced...

If you do indeed have solid rotors on your 1986 240, then something has happened in its history to have caused a RetroFit. The Prev Owner? perhaps. But that would mean that the Rotors and the Calipers were replaced.. SO it would appear

I'm the second owner...car came with them

thank-you for stating the obvious....no really thank-you little validation goes a long way

Paul in LA with the mutant 240

You need to check your facts.

Volvo started using solid front rotors with the P1800 in 1962.

In 1967, the 140 Volvos were introduced with 4 wheel disc brakes with front and rear solid rotors.

The 1972 164 started using front vented rotors.

And solid and vented rotors were available on the 240/260 Volvos up to 1987.

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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502
hiperformanceautoservice.com or oldvolvosonly.com

I am the second owner of this car... It came with solid rotors...I didn't change them...IDK what any one else has on their car, but mine takes solid. that's what came off, that's what I put on.. I don't understand the, check your facts comment

"I don't understand the, check your facts comment"

The "check your facts" suggestion comes from someone who knows what the facts are.

But in a forum like this, there seems to be no easy way to correct mythology and mistaken understanding without twisting panties.

Much as your suggestion to a timing belt changer working on an EZK-116 or Rex sparked engine to check his job with a timing light, it can lead someone on a wild goose chase. Not "alternative facts", just wrong information, and those trying to learn have no idea it is wrong. Excuuuuse me, they say. Or "whatever."
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Art Benstein near Baltimore

He who obtains has little. He who scatters has much. -Lao Tzu

Hello Art,

Thanks for your comments.

B&F, sorry for the misunderstanding, my "check your facts" comment was directed at "someone claiming to be CB"

Although fairly rare on a later 240s, Volvo did use solid front rotors up to 1987.

FYI, I am using the original Volvo parts manuals as reference along with my 30+ years of repairing them and selling parts for them.
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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gi9zFRBCIM

I don't remember ever seeing slotted solid rotors so I think Dave is onto something about your "slotted" rotors.

The only time I converted solid rotors to a vented rotors on a 240, both strut tubes with the spindles were changed at the same time.

But from what I have seen and read, you can just install the vented rotors on your 1986 240, but you also have to install the wider calipers to match. The pads, hoses and hubs with studs are the same.

The pre-1981 hubs and bearings are different, but it appears you can do the same simple upgrade to those as well.
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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502

B&F--I think you are confusing the term "slotted". That term refers to rotors that have had grooves machined into the contact surfaces to allow the release of gasses built up during severe braking. I think you mean "vented" as in having inner and outer contact surfaces separated by "walls" that draw air from the center and expel it out the outer edge of the rotor--as a cooling system for the rotor. Vented rotors require calipers made for them - pads remain the same.
I recently had to replace the front "solid" calipers on my '80 245--thought ok no big deal-I'll just pull them from one of the three parts cars--till I remembered they all have vented rotors. I think the hubs and bearings are different between the 1980 and the later parts cars and I didn't know where "center" would be if I mounted vented rotors to the '80 hubs. Bought a set of remanned calipers instead. I think they (the rebuilder) are giving up on solid rotor calipers -- the deposit for the calipers was half what postage would have been - guess they don't want them back. -- Dave

HI Paul,

A standard angle tapered roller bearings are used in these wheels. I agree, $32 per set sounds a bit expensive. Sometimes and in ways shipping can be a killer.

I'm pretty sure you can get both sets for a little bit more within a quality Timken or SKF brand right over the counter.
If they source correctly within their business contacts that will be including those inner rubber dust seals.

Take note, that a few years back and still today SKF has been plaque with boxed up counterfeits or knock offs being sold. Watch out from whom you deal with.
The Internet is not only opening many doors to commerce, but in some cases, it has shorten some doors and allowing all kinds of dirty things to blow under them.
It's been so bad that SKF formed an undercover division to fight them.

You should be able to take both inners and outer roller cages and their respective outer races out of one hub to an industrial bearing house.
The bearings part numbers are etched around the rims.
The two numbers will correlate to an inclusive "set" number. When these are sold as a common set and are stocked by area turnover, the price should be appreciably less.

Search/Call around for a large local bearing house and find out if they are in stock.
Applied Technologies "was a major player" in my eyes years ago, but of lately, they have gotten into some bad management ideas.
Where I live and they want to order everything and have stopped stocking lots of things. So I quit dealing with them as a waste of time and still faced small handling charges if they felt like it.
In LA, that should not be a problem.

The outside seal is known as a v-groove type rubber dust seal and is a common seal. I think it says V 45, if I remember correctly. That's all they need to look them up.

These are both very popular replacements items, with plenty of competition, if you believe that still works anymore?
Consumers have power to negotiate or compare, if they will just use it and not fuel "insane middleman markups" every time something moves from one shelf to another and calls it, Services!

Phil

I found SKF bearings and races @ NAPA...they are Chinese SKF but what's guy to do...I didn't want to wait till thursday, as i Have a lincoln with two window regulators, Ruby with the wheel bearing,and a clutch cable ...way overdue for replacement a 94 Camry with a front regulator, and rear door handle, a 97 camry that needs a head replaced... and a 2000 camry that needs a water pump and related seals and stuff...and a 92 240 that needs an unbroken motor.....other than that my times free
The inner bearing was beyond tired...but the part exchanges went well, all things considered..I used my crank seal seating tool, and a three pound hammer to gently persuade the hub to go back onto the spindle where it belonged...oh and the new brake rotors were the wrong size...so i'll be done with this phase tomorrow morning
Thanks as always


Paul in LA
grateful for the internet and the Brickboard

with a very little digging I found all the part numbers I need..
searched the archives for 240 wheel bearings...
Napa has the inner, outer bearings and races from the Volvo vendor ...and if you search Amazon for set16 and set17 for timken you will get the inner and outer and races..there a couple of accessory parts you will need, grease seal ring, washer.....there may be more sources,,,,but these will suffice for now...
Thanks as always

The $32 is fair, and from IPD I'm sure they are the right parts and of adequate quality...I was hoping to get the job done sooner .
I have a 92 waiting for a motor, in the garage....If it takes the same parts I could get the p/n from there and have the 86 mobile...to fetch pats..

Thanks as always
Paul
recovering from 12 weeks of working at the socal Renaissance faire

After 29 yrs and 217000 miles both sides went replaced with SKF from FCP and all is quite again as the outers were delaminating on both sides

I have the bearings and associated parts on order from IPD....I should have ordered them sooner...I've been working at the socal renaissance faire for the last 12 weeks and now,every car in the driveway needs attention...There are retailers who have parts that are so cheap, I'm afraid to use them......How good can a $9 bearing from south Korea be...
Thanks for the input...
I'll keep you informed of my progress

Me, the cars, and garage...in recovery from Renaissance Faire