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i posted this on the 940 board and realized it might help here as well 200

https://www.brickboard.com/RWD/volvo/1632473/940/960/980/V90/S90/regina_940s_might_need_fuel_pump.html








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    Single fuel pump for 240s 200

    Indeed a workable idea if you keep in mind the mods will make your car "different" if that matters. Usually, if it is your own car, or one only you will ever take care of, custom improvements are all on the plus side.

    When you send your kid to school in another state in that car, the game can change. Then it would be best if the line from the sender to the filter is done properly, with care in protection and support. The boys and girls on TB have been doing this for years - lots of stories there about mishaps and the mistake of re-using the 12mm feed hose.
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    Art Benstein near Baltimore

    "Never try to educate someone who works behind a counter." - George Washington








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      Single fuel pump for 240s 200

      hi art

      in fact the only reason i started making these fuel pump mods (and other ones as well) was at 240 owners request...........is there a cheaper way to fix this problem?

      and sometimes mods can be improvements even if done for cost savings.








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        Single fuel pump for 240s 200

        Yes, I know it doesn't always sound like it, but I agree.
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        Art Benstein near Baltimore

        Did you hear about the cross-eyed teacher who lost her job because she couldn't control her pupils?








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    What's the current consumption for this aftermarket pump? NMI 200

    Hi,

    I have questions too.

    Whats the electrical current consumption for the pump? If its more than default setup is it going to shorten the fuel relay's life by putting more stress on the relay's contacts?

    According to Volvo 700/900 pocket book the main underbody fuel pump draws about 6.5amps. The in-tank pump draws about 3-4amps for NA cars and 5.5amps for turbo cars (of course different in-tank pump types for NA and turbo).

    For this aftermarket pump which capable of delivering 80psi, my guess is that it could consume more amperes than usual.

    Recently I had replaced my main fuel pump. During looking for a suitable candidate I had come across a Pierburg pump which looked more promising given their excellent reputation but I end up choosing Bosch due to electrical considerations.

    Just a thought.
    Amarin.








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      What's the current consumption for this aftermarket pump? NMI 200

      i understand your concern but think it is misplaced.

      by definition the pump draws less than the fuse size in the fuse panel for that circuit and i have never seen or heard this pump causing a fuse to be blown and i have not noticed a hot fuse in my car during my experiments.

      based on that alone i suspect but can not say with 100% certainty this pump works safely within fuel pump circuit specs on volvo 240 and 940 cars.

      i have yet to see any fuel pump wire harness coming out of the pump that exceeded 16-18 gauge wire and many are thinner.

      18 gauge can handle up to 7 amps
      16 can handle up to 10 amps

      the real draw is in starting this pump not running it.








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    i posted this on the 940 board and realized it might help here as well 200

    Hello

    I have a couple questions.

    Since this is a turbine or centrifugal pump where have you mounted a check valve to hold up rest pressure?

    Does the pump have one built in?

    Phil








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      i posted this on the 940 board and realized it might help here as well 200

      good question.

      i experimented initially on my own cars without a check valve, a 93 regina 940 and a 98 range rover. same pump installed integral with the sender in the tank feeding and external in line filter.

      in both cases it takes the pump under 3 seconds to pressurize the line from pump to rail after which the car will start instantly in the 940 and close to instantly in the range rover.

      in a 240 (not mine) i experimented using the same method and found similar results. the check valve is not really needed if you can wait a few seconds for the line to pressurize. basically turn the key to ignition 2, put on your seat belt and by the time that's done start the engine.

      all other 240's i have installed this check valve inline just above the pump using fuel hose and clamps.

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/301723479523

      its a good valve dirt cheap and from shanghai arrives in massachusetts in 10 days or less.

      i know all the talk about cheap chinese crap and such but i am old enough to recall folks saying the same thing about cheap japanese crap in the early 1960's. within 15 years no one said that anymore. the same thing is happening about china.

      ps: neither of my cars have a check valve installed









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        Vapor lock 200

        The reason for the check valve in the outboard pump configuration is to keep the heat buildup in the line between the pump and rail from vaporizing the fuel after the motor is shut off after a hot day's running, forcing the liquid back into the tank and leaving nothing but vapor under pressure for the positive displacement pump to work against. This is vapor lock, if one can get one's mind off of the carbureted version and the myth that EFI eliminates it.

        With the pump in the tank, and usually submerged or at least surrounded by a large volume of liquid, the high pressure tank pump is not prone to the same vapor lock the external pump is.

        The notion that the 1 second pump run at key on (in some systems) is there to speed up starting or prime the line is, in my opinion, a faulty notion. As you say, even with an entirely empty line and rail, the pressure is up before the first two revs cranking, and if normally filled, well before one rev.

        Really, the reason the Bosch external pump is so expensive, beside the fact it is made like a brick house, is it is an antique. Violates all planned obsolescence goals.
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        Art Benstein near Baltimore

        Mom's Law: The most expensive part you replaced was the root cause and true culprit when you explain it to Mama.








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    i posted this on the 940 board and realized it might help here as well 200

    Over the last ten years this board has slowed down -you might as well post under ALL








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      Nope 200

      "Over the last ten years this board has slowed down -you might as well post under ALL"

      This is a myth. Posting without a model selected will get you the smallest audience. There is no model selection which will put your post into ALL of the RWD forums. Selecting "ALL" puts you in NONE of the forums. Then, only readers who do not select a model, viewing "ALL," see those posts.
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      Art Benstein near Baltimore

      We're going on a class trip to the Coca-Cola factory. I hope there's no pop quiz.







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