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hi sages- usually read the forum messages every day. curious as hell about a few simple it would seem, items: have seen rubber flex joint between the end of the m47 manual trans and driveshaft referred to as the guibo- is that the manufacturer? on the left of my dashboard console is a lever for temp cold and hot- it seems to control a cable and works ok- does it close a door for an air duct or shut off hot water flow into the heater core? on launch from a light my 245 despite the clutch pedal is slow and toughs in big v8 p/u trucks call me bad words and use f bombs. my feelings are hurt- what should i do ? uncle moe says drink whiskey. bet its worse for owners of 245 automatics- they must really be slugs. thanks tons for your sagery and generosity oldduke
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Uncle oldduke,
what about the throw out bearing and replacement? it's all sorted and mended now, yes, I hope?
Thank you,
Bruce.
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hi kitty grey- old 245 still running, mostly around town. no chatter. only happens when hot and long drives. think it is the throw out bearing getting hot andcausing chatter. no noise though. may have to take it apart some day soon, but working ok for now. thanks oldduke
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Hiya oldduke and happy Sat-your-Day.
In case you need a repair service:
- https://www.brickboard.com/SHOPS/
- http://www.volvomechanics.com/
These two are the same, I think --
- http://www.mechanicsfiles.com
- http://www.cartalk.com/mechanics-files
I dunno how helpful, yet you can check with AAA or other auto club.
May want to check with the BBB to verify they are complaint-free.
Hope that helps.
kitty grey hangin' a Hepu water pump, repacin' a Hepu wasser pumpen, on the kittys red 1990 Volvo 240 li'l red wagon. (The gallon of beer yesterday makes a slow day, today. Some ripple may be not as bad for one.)
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OD,
I share you problems with drivers and red lights. I have a 5 speed and and automatic, both wagons. When I pull away and shift into second the car behind me is all over me sometimes. Not as bad in the automatic, but they still seem unhappy. Sometimes I think mustang driver have a inherent hate for Volvo wagons. Maybe our 240s look as slow as they are.
The one thing I do like about the 5 speed is if you put it in neutral and pull the shifter all the way to the left the back up lights come on. Sometimes that freaks people out and they back off.
Hawkeye
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I've encountered the folks that climb up your backside accelerating from a stoplight too.
But as my 245 is a diesel, I have an affective weapon to back them off.
I give the throttle a pop, and the resulting puff of diesel exhaust is usually enough to back them off.
I love my diesel, but it is a slug. Visions of turbos dance in my head but until I win the Lotto, I'll be in the slow lane...
-Hendoo
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yeh but hawk- automatics are usually more sluggish and present a greater risk of being rolled by a tough wouldnt you say? oldduke
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posted by
someone claiming to be CB
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Thu Mar 24 21:06 CST 2016 [ RELATED]
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To all responders:
Quite frankly, I have no idea what you are all complaining about.
I live in a semi rural area. I regularly come off of 30/40mph roads to a stop sign and have to pull onto a 50 - 55 "speedway".
If I venture our during RushHour, when everybody behind me has already driven 30 or 40 miles from work and are really in a hurry to get home to the stove to cook dinner....SUVs, Audi, Lexis, BMWs, Full size V8+ pick-ups. None of them are on my ass as I pull onto and accellerate to 55.
Basic Volvo 87 w/ 5speed. and a extra heavy wagon at that.
there must be something wrong with your cars or where you live (aka the people U have to live with)
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you may have a good point cb. live in a suburb in se fla. probably as you say it could be the types who live here. many are society , drive 40k p/u trucks or big v8 tankers. even had one a while back say get that mofo volvo off the road. probably different in a rural area- people in less of a rush. folks acted worse in jersey and manhattan. actually not a 1st gear launch but when you shift to 2d (a long way) and the back vehicle climbs your back porch. thats when you hear mofos. any recommendation cb? probably give up, put up and shut up. thanks tons oldduke
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oldduke, CB, jaywalker, and hawkeye,
I found it more how hard the other motorist is willing to put the pedal to the metal in their ride versus our normally aspired 240s; whether a three-pedal or two-pedal 240.
The other motorist seem to be willing to floor it or have a much higher power to weight ratio.
The same thing at how we in our 240s treat stop signs, stop lights, yield lights, and so on. How impatient or aggressive are the other drivers?
For the sake of fuel economy, hoping to tread a little more lightly on the environment, and trying to treat the 240 gently and with respect (most of the time - never mind the dent in the sheet metal), when the street stop light light turns green, I don't floor it. A gentle pressure on the accelerator pedal (yields improved fuel economy and reduced emissions, one reminds the self).
I'll shift at like 2200-2600 RPM from 1st to 2nd and 3rd and so on. Yes, influenced by the up-shift light. That upshift arrow orange broadcasts well in the brightest sunshine or moonlight.
Once you get the weighty Volvo 240 mass (for it's size) going, things are okay. Merging on to highways. Though I mind the turnpike speed limits. (I mind all the speed limits. Civil engineers and various motoring and highway agencies arrive at the speed limit posting. I won't argue.)
Here, now there we've returned to the middle of Midwest, with one extra green 1992 240 GL, we return to the issue of the Midwest non stop. Where stop signs, and sometimes stop lights, are inconveniences to be largely ignored. Even though I'd spent years in corrupt Nor-Cally and CIA university, was not ever vexed by the so-called California stop.
In my prior stays here since the last time leaving in 2006, it was the usual thing to approach a four-way stop in the bucolic suburb of the middle of Midwest. This is 1980s to 1987 and 1999 to 2006. Mine is always the oldest Volvo or auto of any make one may observe at the intersection.
You see as you approach how the stop signs are disrespected as they are largely ignored. Everyone rolls right through in a dance of risk and precarity. It seems alright yet I don't have the nerve to roll through. I stop. At the stop sign.
This is when the read between the finger and the gyrating, anguished faces of condemnation come out clearly. In open window weather, you hear it. But it was more than that. There were words indicating how my Volvo 240 is 'that old POS' and the like. It was more classism on prima fascia (first glance or at first appearance). In a nation of massive corruption and massive valuation inequity, my poor owld Volvo 240 is disparaged.
Inconvenienced by a stopped 1991 Volvo 240 in 2005, the then 14 year old Volvo 240 becomes a target of ridicule as it is far less new than all the other autos, operated by all the other motorist. An act of prejudice. Classism.
The competing motorists are in mighty and large Ford Excursions and BMWs and such. Most of then were motoring in American autos. This is, well, 'america'.
As for not going fast enough, well, the middle of midwest dolts love to tail gate at about any speed. I get to the posted speed limit and merely go. They obviously want to speed. The motoring culture here is one that is very aggressive and entitled. Yet ten years later, the motoring environment is not as aggressive. Thankfully.
Hope that helps.
Sat-Your-Days May Be Special Again MacDuff.
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Umm, I think it is a little like my Dad told me many years ago " Don't let your little head do all the thinkin'".
Greg
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Aggressive and/or impatient driving seems to be commonplace in most U.S. metro areas these days! Rural is better, but I've seen an uptick there too.
It has been some years since I lived there, but the only place I have driven where the drivers are usually polite is the PNW.
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Just a seat of the pants observation from having driven both: I think the 240 slushboxes might be faster off the line than the sticks. Plus, that first to second shift comes at a much higher speed in the slushboxes than the sticks so there isn't that lag time at a low speed where one needs to make that first to second shift as in a manual tranny.
Above 30 mph or so the manuals are certainly faster as the slushboxes are real dogs above about 40 mph.
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Others touched on a few - cable controls heater control valve (coolant) -- and it's a messy thermostatic affair that rarely closes all the way which often (usually) makes the A/C work harder than it needs to -- and perfectly functioning the A/C in these cars was marginal to begin with. Swedes don't grock summer in the southern US.
Naturally aspirated, they're all 3000-3300 lb cars with 100HP 4 bangers. They're slow - it's physics. However, there is a cure. http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad214/MichaelYount/LS3%20Engine%20swap/mock1_zps50tyxg0y.jpg
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hi art b , heck, bend and uncle yount- guess im lucky when i move the lever all the way to the left, the dash vents blow cold in about a minute. interesting when we have a rare cold florida morning , i get heat within 2 minutes after levering right and rolling. one followup art b, moe never told me how much to drink at one sitting- guessing two small shot glasses? had almost 50 years on rwd fords and slant sixes, so not a novice there .240s are a steeper learning curve but my bruthas and muthas here on the board greatly help with enigmas. thanks tons again oldduke ps and btw did put at least 3 turn valve petcocks on fords and dodges to shut off the trickle of hot water into the heater core. many of the american tanks of yesteryear had these vacuum actuated shut off valve pods which were stinko after maybe two years . a real pain in the keester when you had a 98 degree day at the jersey shore.
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You don't say what year, but my '87 245 was painfully slow and revving the guts out of it only annoyed the hamsters. A Canadian cam helped a little. My '92 245 is downright spritely by comparison. I heard that Volvo upped the fuel pressure on the later models. What ever they did worked. The fuel pressure regulator on the '87 is different than the '92, but I would guess that if you picked up the fuel rail (and FPR) from a '91-'93 240 it would plug right in. I have not tried this, but the injectors are in the same place...
Greg
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Hi oldduke,
I'm surprised to hear you have the time to read the board most every day. You've been around much longer than an novice.
If we would only spell it a bit differently, there is some good history here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giubo
As for the heater control, it operates the water valve. Most of them are pretty poor at shutting off, so you in South Florida wind up heating while you're air conditioning.
That there are so many rude people who can accelerate faster than you can astounds me. I never met anyone like that in my few travels to your fair state. Drink the whiskey. Uncle Moe is to be respected. But don't drive.
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Art Benstein near Baltimore
The day after tomorrow is the third day of the rest of your life.
-- George Carlin
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From whenever Volvo went to the B23 (1983?) they changed the rear axle ratio from a 3.9 to a 3.31. That makes a big difference. My first experience with an '84 with stick shift owned by a service customer left me wondering if something was wrong with it. I understood better on learning of the axle change. The solution--a heavy foot. Mash the throttle and run it up to 5,000 rpm in 1st -- the motor will love it and you'll get going better. My 104hp '80 M46 245 has no trouble keeping ahead of most traffic.
I would guess that your problem is not what my wife's best friend experienced with her first car--a Hillman convertible with a column shift. I came home from school for the holidays and Andrea was anxious to show me her car. She took me for a ride--and I had to ask--why not use 1st gear?--she looked puzzled--the previous owner had shown her how to drive it---apparently he didn't know it was a four speed :-) Dave
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