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AMP LIGHT STAYS ON 140-160 1968

posted by  olsweed on  Mon Feb 29 17:37 CST 2016
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HELLO, THE OTHER DAY I COULDN'T START MY 142s. SINCE THE BATTERY AND THE ALTERNATOR(REPLACED FROM GENERATOR TO ALTERNATOR SYSTEM) WERE OLD,I BOUGHT A NEW BATTERY AND HAD THE ALTERNATOR REBUILT. THE CAR STARTED UP FINE, BUT THE AMP LIGHT ON THE DASH REMAINED ON.I TOOK THE ALTERNATOR AND THE VOLTAGE REGULATOR BACK TO THE GENERATOR SHOP AND THE OWNER TESTED THEM BOTH AND SAID THEY WERE GOOD. REINSTALLED THE ALTERNATOR AND VOLTAGE REGULATOR, BUT THE AMP LIGHT REMAINS ON.COULD THE VOLTAGE REGULATOR BE BAD? THANK YOU. STEVE.








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    posted by  142 guy on  Mon Feb 29 19:13 CST 2016
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    What type of alternator, Bosch, SEV or some other retrofit?

    If you have a voltmeter, measure the voltage on the battery with the car running. If it is 12 volts or lower, the alternator or regulator (or something) is inoperative. If the voltage is more like 13 - 13.2 volts, then the alternator and regulator are working and the problem is with the connection of the alternator sensing light. However, if the alternator light is incorrectly connected, the alternator typically will not operate (it needs the trickle current through the alternator light filament to flash the alternator field).

    The wiring for a SEV or Bosch alternator is:

    Df connection on external regulator (normally the green wire on OEM installations) connects to Df connection on alternator.
    D+ connection on external regulator (red wire on OEM) connects to 61/D+ terminal on alternator.
    D- connection on external regulator connects to good ground.
    Wire from charging light connects to 61/D+ terminal on alternator.
    The big B+ terminal on the alternator is connected to the battery + terminal.








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      posted by  olsweed on  Mon Feb 29 19:53 CST 2016
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      it's a bosch alternator. i don't have a volt meter to test with. i've already made sure that all connections were cleaned including the amp sensor light connection off the alternator. with the amp light on, i drove the car about 2 miles. i noticed that the turn signals seem to run a little slower than normal.








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        posted by  142 guy on  Tue Mar 1 17:50 CST 2016
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        Looks like you are getting a new regulator. There is a good chance that is the problem if all the wiring is correct. If you had a voltmeter, there is a way to test and adjust the existing Bosch regulator; but, without a voltmeter you are SOL.

        If the regulator does not fix the problem, then the next obvious candidate would be to check the field winding resistance; however, you need a multimeter tester to do that and if the alternator was rebuilt, the field winding and brushes should not be a problem.








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          posted by  olsweed on  Wed Mar 2 20:59 CST 2016
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          Thank you for your advice.








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            posted by  olsweed on  Sun Mar 20 22:26 CST 2016
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            I put a new Buco voltage regulator But the amp lite still went on. Took the car back to the generator shop and they tested the alternator. They replaced the diode/diodes and the the amp lite remains off and everything is good.








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              posted by  142 guy on  Mon Mar 21 17:00 CST 2016
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              Its very unusual for the diodes to fail, unless it was a bad connection, or there was a short circuit that resulted in overheating of the diodes.

              I thought way back at the start when the charge light was on that you took the alternator back to the repair shop and they said that the alternator was working fine?








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    posted by  planetman on  Mon Feb 29 17:46 CST 2016
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    Can you supply pictures of both the back of the alternator and of the voltage regulator focusing on the wiring?

    FYI, SOME PEOPLE CONSIDER TYPING IN ALL UPPER CASE AS RUDE AND AKIN TO YELLING.

    I don't really care either way, but still post pictures, IF YOU WANT!! :-) :-)
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    Eric
    Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
    Torrance, CA 90502








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      posted by  olsweed on  Mon Feb 29 18:58 CST 2016
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      Hope you got the images.








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        posted by  planetman on  Mon Feb 29 23:33 CST 2016
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        I got the pictures.

        Since you don't have a voltmeter, it will be difficult to diagnose the problem.

        However, I think your voltage regulator is bad and I don't particularly like that brand of voltage regulator.

        I prefer the Bosch electronic voltage regulators, but they are expensive, so I also sell and recommend the Beru brand which is a copy of the Bosch and they are a lot cheaper.

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        Eric
        Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
        Torrance, CA 90502
        hiperformanceautoservice.com or oldvolvosonly.com







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