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Engine quits when warm at idle 1800 1972

My 72 ES engine quits at idle when warm. The present idle is set at 750rpm and is ok when cold. When it is warm and I come to a stop sign, the idle falls of and the engine quits! The car has air-conditioning but this happens when the AC is OFF. I guess I could increase the idle to 1000RPM but that doesn't solve my problem. Any thoughts? Thanks
P.S. Where does one set the idle speed? I can't find it in the manual.








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    Engine quits when warm at idle 1800 1972

    Your symptoms are consistent with an engine coolant temperature sensor which is located by the thermostat housing.

    Your idle setting at 750 rpm is fine.








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      Engine quits when warm at idle 1800 1972

      Yes, this could be a cause. The Bosch coolant temp sensor should have a resistance around 3000 ohm at 10 C and less than 700 ohms when the engine is up to operating temperature (around 80 C).

      I switched from D jet to Megasquirt so it has been a while since I fiddles with Djet. I am not absolutely sure how D jet would interpret a broken (infinite resistance connection) on the CLT. If it just interprets it as really high resistance, it will be causing the D jet to interpret the engine as being always cold and inject extra warm-up enrichment fuel. This could explain the car running OK when cold and poorly when hot. However, when the engine is hot, the additional warm-up fuel addition would be causing the engine to run quite rich. I would think that this would be quite noticeable in the tell-tale odour from the exhaust pipe associated with partially burnt fuel mix. I think it would also show up in the colour of the spark plug insulators.

      Checking the operation of the sensor itself is easy enough to do with an ohmmeter. If it is not shorted out internally or open circuit, it is probably OK (reads somewhere between 3000 and 700 ohms which will depend on the temperature). Check the condition of the wire close to the end of the plug which fits into the sensor. The wiring insulation gets brittle with age and exposure to heat and it may be shorting out or broken at the plug.








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      Engine quits when warm at idle 1800 1972

      I think there needs to be clarification about if the car stops when it gets warm and does not restart, or if it runs, but dies off due to low idle speed.

      If it does not restart easily.....I would concur with the diagnoses of the faulty coolant temp sensor, If it is a matter of idle speed not being hardy enough to run, then 142Guy's remedy applies.
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      Antique Swedish Steel 71 142E color V#102








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    Engine quits when warm at idle 1800 1972

    Is the cold idle at 750 RPM or is that the warm idle? If that is the cold idle, the warm idle will be way to low if your aux air valve is working.

    With the D jet, the normal procedure is to set your idle speed when the engine is warm, around 850 RPM as I recall (check your service manual to confirm). Just in case you are not up on the idle setting process, do not use the stop screw on the throttle cable to set idle. Use the large screw at the bottom of the intake manifold to set the idle speed. If the throttle stop screw has been adjusted you have to go through the process of readjusting the throttle position switch.

    With the warm idle set around 850 RPM, your cold idle will probably be up at around 1100 + RPM if your aux air valve is working.








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      Engine quits when warm at idle 1800 1972

      I finally found what I think is the idle set screw. It is on the underside between the manifold intake opening and the throttle body with a securing nut surrounding a screw. There is also an unidentified open brass nipple with nothing attached? Any idea what is supposed to be attached here? In reference to your instructions, I'll attempt to raise the cold idle tomorrow.








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        Engine quits when warm at idle 1800 1972

        I think the brass outlet nipple might be the spot where the vacumn line to the distributor is connected. If you have been running with this unattached, and you reattach it, it will lower your idle speed, requiring further opening of the idle bleed valve (with lock nut) at the 6 o'clock position of the intake opening.
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        Antique Swedish Steel 71 142E color V#102








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          Engine quits when warm at idle 1800 1972

          The nipple near the idle adjusting screw under the throttle body is for the charcoal canister and even disconnected is not a vacuum leak.
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          Eric
          Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
          Torrance, CA 90502







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