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odometer won't work consistently after changing gear- 1992 240 200 1992

I've opened it up three times now. Still no sign of the broken tooth. It's not in the clear plastic gear housing as Art suggested. I checked.
I don't want to take off the speedometer needle to take the face plate off as I've read it can break due to it's age (269,000 + miles).
However, I've had a good look inside there as much as possible with the face plate on, and really don't see where a broken tooth could get hung up. I've turned the dials and nothing comes out either.
Plus, it ran continuously for 311 miles without an issue before temporarily stopping again. That doesn't seem to me like it would point to a broken tooth being lodged in there.
Cracked solder locations? Well, if that's the issue, I don't think I'm going to go there. I examined them, and as far as I can see, they look okay, but I don't think I want to mess with trying to reinforce them with more solder. I'm concerned I may screw them up, add too much solder or something that would affect their functionality. I imagine I would have to reinforce all of them as they all look about the same to me.
So as it is now, the odometer will turn over for a while, then stop, then start again and go for a while, and then stop. At one point it ran continuously for 311 miles, as I indicated above. So I don't know what my next step is here.
Any thoughts? Daikhster.








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    odometer won't work consistently after changing gear- 1992 240 200 1992

    Hi there,

    I will have to say Trichard has put the best advice out there. Jump into soldering!

    It's one of the easiest skills you can acquire with some practice. You can start with an inexpensive pencil type soldering gun for about $10 and a small tube of electrical rosin soldering wire for a buck or so.
    Start with tips of some copper wire and heat the wire up and touch the solder to the wire until it melts. You can get it to flow more readily if you place the solder right where the two meet but I favor getting the copper or the joint area hot at once.

    When you look at a solder joint, the surface of the lead should be shiny and not a dull gray or look whitish.
    If you just add heat to the joint the solder will "reflow." You only have to dip the tip of your solder wire
    into the mass to brighten the puddle.

    You will want to do this on the three strips that the VSS connector attaches to. A little thicker film makes for a tighter fit and pulse conduction.

    As far as the odometer gearing I think the whole planetary gear system is a little funky in that it only uses one gear instead of three gears. The platter which the gear sits on is only counter weighted.
    Things are made loose enough that it jiggles around and being mounted vertically does not help.
    The original gear will also biodegrade.
    I have had several clusters that have quit around 204K to 214K. I used to get the whole cluster for the price of a replacement gear.

    I have studied them and now have made myself some thicker gears out of Delrin plastic. They are about twice as thick with a very shallow hub. It engages more of the face or teeth of the ring gear and drive gear. It adds support to the platter.
    Anyway that's my fix with the gears.

    So this covers two issues!
    Here is another that I just found out from the Wagonmiester himself because I purchased a car from him last week. Just so happens it was a 1992 sedan.

    He refurbished the car and rebuilt the speedometer. He says he puts in new 2115 chips if they are bad and puts in new capacitors. I don't recall right now how many there are but he says he puts in new ones! He said they dry out from age and heat.

    I surmise that the capacitor(s) help raise up current values of the pluse circuit or the motor itself?

    From my limited experience with electronics I know that they are a weak link in a lot of circuits for that very reason.
    The ones on two of my cars are likely to get serviced if I have an issue like yours! I'm lazy that way!

    There is another Brickboarder, Anthony, that is asking about his odometer too!
    He stated he has purchased replacements as he has his work done I think.
    Maybe you two need to network at gaining soldering skills since you already bust them apart on a regular basis.

    I could offer a few extra spare gears for the postage but many people are not to willing to share home addresses or e-mails over the net nowadays.
    The Wagonmiester says he gets his made in quantities of 250 at a time. I don't do mass production, it's just too boring! I told Dave about mine but I didn't get the opportunity to see his replacements.

    We just shared our love of Volvos with smiles!


    Phil








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      vaccuming vaccum 200 1989

      Just a small tip on vacuuming for very small broken parts. If you are using a canister vacuum with hose, take the hose apart somewhere and cover the hole with an old nylon stocking, sort of like covering a drum. Anyway, put the hose back together with that nylon stocking covering that “hole” and vaccuum, Hopefully the nylon will catch the item, (probably a few other things also;) Turn the vaccum cleaner off and take apart the hoses and get the nylon. Hopefully whatever you are looking for will be there.








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      odometer won't work consistently after changing gear- 1992 240 200 1992

      Listen to these guys. Great advice. Soldering is an easy-to-learn skill which is great to have. If you're hear at BB, that means you're interested in learning how to DIY as much as you can. If you replaced the gear, you can reflow 3 solder joints. Practice on some old household electronics you may have lying around, or for a few bucks go to Radioshack to pick up a few printed circuit boards to practice with. There are a ton of youtube videos to help. I started soldering on my 240 - first time ever was on this very repair. A few years later and one of my other hobbies now is restoring vintage vacuum tube radios and guitar amps! Plenty of soldering going on there!








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        odometer won't work consistently after changing gear- 1992 240 200 1992

        Your next step is locate and remove the lone missing broken gear tooth. use a vacuum cleaner on it








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          odometer won't work consistently after changing gear- 1992 240 200 1992

          hi kidd- good to hear from you. this is a true vexatious conundrum on 240s. my92 245 has been doing this for a few mos. have to tap the base of the cluster a few times each day on the road when the odometer stops working. did replace the two speedo gears a few years ago and shook out some bits of a tooth. figure its only one thing now- the solder points must have cracked or separated on the back of cluster. plan to take it out and workthe soldering gun on it. seems thats the only thing left that willwork. regards oldduke








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    odometer won't work consistently after changing gear- 1992 240 200 1992

    1. it works but not consistently

    if it works the teeth are ok
    if it works the motor is ok
    if it works but sporadically this points to a 'failure to communicate" (lol)
    between the incoming voltage and the motor

    Cracked solder locations? Well, if that's the issue, I don't think I'm going to go there. I examined them, and as far as I can see, they look okay, but I don't think I want to mess with trying to reinforce them with more solder. I'm concerned I may screw them up, add too much solder or something that would affect their functionality. I imagine I would have to reinforce all of them as they all look about the same to me.
    So as it is now, the odometer will turn over for a while, then stop, then start again and go for a while, and then stop. At one point it ran continuously for 311 miles, as I indicated above. So I don't know what my next step is here.
    Any thoughts? Daikhster.


    you said it yourself just above. you likely have cracks in the solder on of of the 3 point which constitute the motor voltage circuit. go to cleanflametrap.com for a nice write up with photos on where to resolder......or not







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