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90 240 330,000 miles compression test results? 200

Trying to get a car back on the road to sell but I want to make sure I'm not setting anyone up with a lemon so I've been going through it and fixing problems and potential problems. I'm now finally doing a compression test before going any further. Here is how I conducted the test and my results.

I warmed up the engine so the temp gauge was half way between cold and hot.

Took out 25 amp blade fuse and pulled the 15 terminal on the coil. Removed all spark plugs.

Inserted tester, screw type, into cylinder #1. Cranked 5 times and got 150. Repeated the same on all cylinders. Cylinders 1,2, & 4 all read the same and acted the same at 150 with a quick jump on initial cranking. Cylinder #3 didn't jump as quick and after 5 cranks it read 120. I then mowed the lawn and did some other things. I read the FAQ section and returned the car and performed a 10 crank test on cylinder #3 and it read 150. I did the same with cylinder #1 to see if the cooling down of the engine changed the reading. The engine was still a bit warm. I got 148 on cylinder #1.

I'm confused. I read somewhere that 5 cranks was the correct test but then read 5-10 cranks from the FAQ. Seeing that #3 is taking longer to get up to 150 but does reach it gives me some hope but I'm also leaning towards possible valve damage. Does that seem like the correct conclusion?








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    90 240 330,000 miles compression test results? 200

    Try again with your assistant holding the throttle wide open.

    Not sure why #3 is taking longer to come up, but 150 psi is a little on the low side. I usually see 170-180 psi, even on high mileage b230f's. 150 is not nearly bad enough to warrant pulling the motor, but it is low enough to point to ring wear (which is to be expected at 330,000 miles).

    I think what you are seeing here is normal "wear and tear." The engine could probably go another 150,000 before the compression gets low enough to warrant a rebuild. Even then, you will need only new rings and a vale job.








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      90 240 330,000 miles compression test results? 200

      Would stepping on the gas pedal do something similar to opening the throttle wide open? I will try again tomorrow. The valves are ticking pretty good. I'm hoping adjusting the valves will help a little.








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        90 240 330,000 miles compression test results? 200

        You only need to open the throttle a little as, with the spark plugs removed, there is only one cylinder capable of pulling manifold vacuum - the one with the test gauge screwed in. (and, for the technically nerdy, one of the other cylinders will have its intake valve at least partially open, so there's a big vacuum "leak".) Just stick a coffee stirrer or such into the throttle stop on the throttle cable drum.

        It's important to have a good battery and starter motor, so the engine cranks over at a proper RPM.

        The main thing is consistency between cylinders. If they are all a bit low compared to a new engine, but close to the same reading, the engine is just seeing a bit of ring wear associated with its mileage. Lots of miles left in it.

        If one cylinder is notably lower, it suggests a leaking valve - usually an exhaust valve. In my experience, a leaking valve will give a low reading regardless of how many cranks you use to try to build pressure. In a good cylinder, I see about 75-80% of max pressure achieved on the first stroke and it's 99% all there after the third stroke.

        The last check on my 1983 240 (B23F) was at 150k miles and all cylinders were within 10psi of 190psi. That was with MY gauge and MY test procedure. You may well have followed me a minute later and got very different numbers, with your gauge and procedure, but pressures would still be even.

        No point in comparing my numbers to yours - the 1983 B23F engines had a higher compression ratio than the B230's.

        I agree with trichard - your engine is fine.
        --
        Bob: Son's XC70, my 83 244DL, 89 745 (Chev LT-1 V8), and 2010 XC60. Also '77 MGB and some old motorcycles








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          90 240 330,000 miles RETEST 200

          I retested the engine with throttle wide open. For some reason the #3 cylinder didn't show any problems his time. All cylinders read at or within a needle width from the 160 mark. Now i'm on the fence about swapping out the transmission with a lower milage one. I believe Aw70 clutch packs last to around 350,000. Feel lucky the check ball has lasted this long.








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    90 240 330,000 miles compression test results? 200

    Throttle should be wide open when testing. Try repeating the test with about a teaspoon of oil down the bores. That helps to seal the rings. If the numbers improve by 10-20 it shows that there is some blow-by at the rings. Numbers shouldn't vary by more than about 10%. However, generally speaking, if the engine is running well and not burning too much oil, at that mileage it can be said that it is doing OK. 150 is an honest sort of number.








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    90 240 330,000 miles compression test results? 200

    no worries.

    i bought a 90 parts car sitting for 3 years with 445k miles on it.
    after stripping it i put the engine on a stand to rebuild it.

    when i pulled the mains and rods off i spec'd the crank and found it exactly at factory new spec with not even burnish visible.

    the bearing all had no discernable wear and measured as new. they were imo original

    the rings were replaced. the cylinder walls had cross hatching clearly visible.
    frankly i wasted my time and money tearing it down. it could easiuloy have been driven another few 00 000 miles.

    recently i used the transmission in a swap and it shifts silky smooth with not a drop leaking.

    the moral: change the oil, flush the transmission and drive it like you give damn about keeping it running and lo and behold it will run if not forever pretty far.







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