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Stumbles on Initial Acceleration & Hot #4 Fuse 200 1990

Hello,

330,000 miles. My 240 lay in wait for my son to turn 16. It doesnt get driven much right now so I decided to take it out and it's developed a stumble on acceleration (righth as you step on the gas) I also noticed fuse #4 was hot to the touch. The in tank pump and sock and sender were replaced ~ 5-6 years ago. I used an AC/Declo pump. Sticking a piece of garden hose a few inches into the fuel filler tube I can hear the in-tank pump running strong. Has well over 1/2 tank of gas in it.

It certainly feels like a fuel delivery problem. I swapped out the fuel relay and no real improvement. Fuel pressure regulator has not been changesd in my 9 years of ownership. Fuel filter is also high on my list... its been ~5 years. I'm going to hook up a line to the fuel return out of the regulator and see if I am getting a good stream. I dont have a fuel pressure gauge.

I really dont want to go into the tank again... even though its only been ~ 5-6 years since i replaced the sender unit and pump, the bung nut and sender are hopelessly rusted so i'd probably be in for a new sender if I try and remove it.
I'm assuming its fuel but could it be vacuum leak?

Look forward to suggestions!

Thanks
Matt










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    Stumbles on Initial Acceleration & Hot #4 Fuse 200 1990

    well i happened to have a set of bosch cables in the basement... i installed those and drove the car on several errands tonight and not one acceleration stumble. i'll certainly follow up on the other great suggestions as i get the car ready for my son. good to be back here with all you great folks.

    93 940 -- 342k
    90 240 -- 328k








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    Stumbles on Initial Acceleration & Hot #4 Fuse 200 1990

    You could check the adjustment of the throttle position switch for "on idle to off idle acceleration."
    The ECU needs to know when the change is happening.

    Is the throttle body clean and the port to the FPR.
    Make sure throttle plate shut so that "all the idling air" is going through the IAC's control range. A partial open plate messes with the transition.

    Check "all hose" connections behind the AMM, including vacuum lines, to make sure they're in good shape. The AMM needs to control all the air to the engine.

    Phil








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    Stumbles on Initial Acceleration & Hot #4 Fuse 200 1990

    thanks art,

    i performed the pinch and feel test on the return line and am able to feel a good backpressure with my fingers when i pinch the line further downstream with pliers.

    i did make another interesting observation.... as i was reving the engine via the throttle spindle i noticed a good size spark jumping from a spark plug wire to a bolt on the intake manifold. it has been extremely humid here and spark plug wires are 6 years old according to my records. is this just bad wires or is there another cause.

    do you think this could this be causing the intermittant issues i'm experiencing. at this point i would like to insert a question mark but alas the shift key appears to be non-functional.

    thanks,
    matt








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      Stumbles on Initial Acceleration & Hot #4 Fuse 200 1990

      Wipe all of your leads and inside and out of the dizzy cap down with WD-40.That will get rid of the dampness/condensation that can cause sparking. With engine running, look under the hood in total darkness, can be quite a light show. Just spraying everything with WD will work but can be messy.

      Doing this may not fix your problem but should improve things. If the car has been sitting around a lot the gas condition may not be very good either. As said, cleaning up the fuses and contacts a good idea. May not be a major fault and just down to lack of use.








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      Stumbles on Initial Acceleration & Hot #4 Fuse 200 1990

      Yes, bad wires would be a first guess. If that does not pan out, consider the situation caused by someone putting the timing belt in on notch wrong at the I-shaft, making the wide contact on the rotor miss the plug wire it needs to fire. It might miss on the advance end of its swing, making it lose spark when you call for acceleration. Even worse, some have removed the plastic insert on the distributor hold down to rotate the dizzy like it was the source of timing as in the olden days...

      But if that was the coil wire, and your dizzy is timed right, check the resistor in the rotor. 1000 ohms. Anything is better than wide open.


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      Art Benstein near Baltimore

      And whenever your keyboard fails you, do an internet search. Like the 10000 monkeys on the 10000 typewriters, someone has said what you want to say, somewhere. You can cut and paste without the shift key.








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    Stumbles on Initial Acceleration & Hot #4 Fuse 200 1990

    Hi Matt,

    First, on the hot fuse... it is most likely a red herring. Of course a fuse does what it does by getting hot, and that does not work like a light switch (cool until it needs to melt) so yes a working fuse may burn your finger. But in that particular fuse panel, high resistance contacts are a well known trouble, and their result is heat. Check the current by using a multimeter in the 10-amp range; you should see about 3-5 amps with the oxygen sensor heater and tank pump together. If you hear the tank pump running you can pretty much rule out needing to go back in there.

    On it being a fuel delivery problem like it feels... could be, certainly, and it wasn't 3 months into my 15 year relationship with Volvos that I realized I needed a way to measure fuel pressure. You do too. A fair substitute is a check of the return flow. Run the pumps by jumping fuse 4 to 12V (like from 6) and feel the flow through the hose exiting the fuel pressure regulator. If you trust the regulator and feel the flow, you can feel somewhat assured you have 43 lbs of pressure to the injectors. Then you can go on to be sure the intake vacuum is doing its thing.


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    Art Benstein near Baltimore

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