Volvo RWD 200 Forum

INDEX FOR 10/2025(CURRENT) INDEX FOR 2/2007 200 INDEX

[<<]  [>>]


THREADED THREADED EXPANDED FLAT PRINT ALL
MESSAGES IN THIS THREAD




  REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

Runs great ... til it didn't. No pwr after warm up. 200 1990

Daughters car now off the road as I had to give up on it back in the brutal winter here. It starts and runs perfectly until it warms up, ambient temp about 65 this means 3 minutes, then it completly lacks power and has a surging idle ( almost stalls then recovers). Seems to be a fuel delivery problem as it is not choking out more like a lack of fuel. Let it cool down and runs good again until it warms. O2 sensor and cat were new last fall. Air mass meter swapped out no change.
Thanx for your advise.








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    Surging Idle 200 1990

    "It starts and runs perfectly until it warms up, ambient temp about 65 this means 3 minutes, then it completly lacks power and has a surging idle ( almost stalls then recovers)."
    The surging idle when warm and almost stalling went away when I replaced the ignition amplifier. No codes were set.
    --
    1980 245 Canadian B21A with SU carb, M46 trans, 3:31 dif, in Brampton, Ont.








    •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

      Surging Idle 200 1990

      Thanx for all the replys. Trev this sounds like a likely suspect unless I have a faulty new O2 sensor. I'll trace that out and check voltages on the O2 sensor.
      see classified ads ... this car with lots of new parts is for sale. Daughter bought a 2006 Forester.








      •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

        Surging Idle 200 1990

        Problem resolved. Bad idle and no power after warm up was a result of low coolant level.
        Thanks for the tip on coolant temp sensor. There apparently was enough coolant to run the dash gage but not enough to signal the fuel mix. Added coolant and it runs fine with plenty of power, smooth idle.
        Water pump gasket leak to be addressed. Hopefully by next owner. Best offer and it's yours.








        •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

          Surging Idle 200 1990

          Not long after I bought my 92 wagon I had driving problems. My coolant was really low too. The expansion tank looked as if was up to the level but in fact it was just a dirty scummy coating that made it look that way. With the return pipe going in half way down the rad I only had about half a system full of coolant. I did fit a new thermostat because it was showing just a bit hot but filling up the newly cleaned tank took about 3 pints! No problems since.
          Bottom line, clean out your tank.








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    Runs great ... til it didn't. No pwr after warm up. 200 1990

    Since you just replace the O2 sensor, based on your response, we are unlike to convince you to do the multimeter test. This leaves engine temp sensor and fuel pressure regulator as the likely suspects.








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    Runs great ... til it didn't. No pwr after warm up. 200 1990

    Any chance the exhaust is obstructed? Maybe pulling the battery cable for 20 minutes and letting the ECU reset its fuel maps would help.

    If you accelerate slowly, will it climb rpms, or does it hit a wall at some point? My money is, as usual, on fuel/mixture.








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    Runs great ... til it didn't. No pwr after warm up. 200 1990

    Like trichard says about no codes. Have you checked the OBD (on-board diagnostic)?

    From the Volvo 700-900 FAQ, hosted right here on your favorite brickboard:

    https://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/EngineOBDCodes.htm

    Intermittent causes may not display at first as how Bosch set up the OBD as meant to be forgiving and adjust to aging sensors and such, then set a check engine light.

    Learn about some causes for poor performance symptoms ...

    https://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/EnginePerformanceSymptoms.htm

    You'd need a mulitmemter with resistance (Ohms) check and continuity function, in addition to DC and AC volts check ....

    https://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/EngineSensors.htm

    Do you have your Bentley Volvo 240 Service manual, or at least a Haynes Volvo 240 service guide?

    Could be:
    - Starting to fail throttle position sensor / switch.
    - You do not mention a gasoline smell, yet a leaking fuel pressure regulator (FPR).
    - Connection to the engine control coolant sensor is bad, while the connection is good, the sensor itself is failing as aforementioned.
    - Clogging catalytic converter.
    - A fuel delivery problem could be a faulty 25 Amp fuel injection system fuse in the 1990 (final year for this, uh, well-known feature) 240 engine compartment, on the North American driver side, on the small metal horizontal rail in front of the inner fender / strut tower, or other faulty fuse, or other electrical problem like the fuel injection system relay (cranked solder welds).
    - Hot air coming through the pre-heater hot air intake through the air filter box. The flap valve in the air filter box gets stuck to hot air open. Hot air coming through the silver accordion hose that connects between the exhaust manifold heat shield, under the water pump fan shroud, and into the bottom of the air filter box. Hot air on the AMM on a warmed-up 1990 240 with Bosch LH-Jet / EZK may cause running problems. Immediately remove the pre-heater pipe connections! Else you'll ruin your new AMM/MAF!
    - You may also have air intake (vacuum) leaks. Inspect and diagnose the air intake, including all vacuum hoses.
    - You may have an exhaust system leak at any point upstream of the 02 sensor. Check the cylinder head to exhaust manifold connection. (Soapy detergent water in a spray bottom on cold exhaust pieces just as you start the car. See bubbles?) Sometimes the three securing hardware sets securing the header pipe to the exhaust manifold get loose. Or the securing hardware at the header pipe output to catalytic converter input (a particularly prone to fail exhaust union on RWD Volvos - most people to not ensure the header pipe is secured at the downstream end on the factory bracket).

    There may be other causes. Hope this helps.

    Other will chime in to help you.

    Questions?

    Dud MacDuffed.








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    Runs great ... til it didn't. No pwr after warm up. 200 1990

    using a meter i would revisit the o2 sensor and verify it swings rapidly within range once its warmed up.

    also check your coolant temp sensor.

    it is odd no codes have been set








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    Runs great ... til it didn't. No pwr after warm up. 200 1990

    My recent problem was the ignition.
    Ignition wire from coil to distributor cap.
    Cap and rotor.
    Spark plug wires.
    --
    1992 Volvo 240 & 1998 Volvo C70








    •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

      Runs great ... til it didn't. No pwr after warm up. 200 1990








      •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

        Runs great ... til it didn't. No pwr after warm up. 200 1990

        Hi Dan. All those replaced recently. Runs great until warmed up.








        •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

          Runs great ... til it didn't. No pwr after warm up. 200 1990

          I agree with a couple of the other posters that the fuel mixture is not leaning out as the engine warms up, if you have other signs.

          Signs like, sooty plugs or tailpipe and lousy mileage. These are related to the computers engine coolant sensor.
          It's located under the third intake runner from the front of the engine. Not a nice place to see!
          If the sensor became unplugged it will run excessively rich but cold engines deal with extra fuel.
          If it's not changing in calibrated fashion performance will be mediocre with those above symptoms.

          The fuel pressure regulator is a mechanical thing that screws up the mixture in very "similar" ways.
          You can temporarily plug off the vacuum line, that the provides a gas route to the intake, from a possible leaky diaphragm.
          It could also be stuck open and returning too much fuel to the tank.
          Is it very hard to start at anytime? Like several cranking moments.

          How long since a timing belt change or belt tension reset adjustment?

          What was it running like during the winter, when it got to bad to drive or is this just a warm weather phenomenon?

          Phil








        •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

          Runs great ... til it didn't. No pwr after warm up. 200 1990

          Cold start valve not switching off when it gets up to temperature?








          •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

            Runs great ... til it didn't. No pwr after warm up. 200 1990

            Huh? I think there might have been something similarly named on the K-jet cars but not on LH 2.4. Did you mean thecold start injector leaking by chance?








            •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

              Runs great ... til it didn't. No pwr after warm up. 200 1990

              What's in a name....... Well OK it's the enrichment device that switches off when the engine gets up to temperature or gradually if the system is sufficiently sophisticated. If this isn't working it just stays rich all the time, not something a hot engine likes to cope with.
              I have a '92 SE Wagon in the UK with the 2 litre engine. I don't know what my system has. Don't think the USA got this engine. Only about 80k miles and no problems at the moment (touch wood).







<< < > >>



©Jarrod Stenberg 1997-2022. All material except where indicated.


All participants agree to these terms.

Brickboard.com is not affiliated with nor sponsored by AB Volvo, Volvo Car Corporation, Volvo Cars of North America, Inc. or Ford Motor Company. Brickboard.com is a Volvo owner/enthusiast site, similar to a club, and does not intend to pose as an official Volvo site. The official Volvo site can be found here.