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Looking at getting new shocks all around for my wife's '94 940 Turbo and I want to get opinions of the Koni's vs. the Bilstein options. My wife's car is mostly stock and we use it primarily for highway cruising. My friend has a set of Koni's on his 240 wagon and I really enjoyed the ride...it was firm without being harsh. I have also driven in 240s and 740s with Bilsteins and the ride is nice, but a bit harsher. I was wondering if the same characterizations hold for the 940s. Any impressions would be very helpful...Thanks in advance!
Thanks,
Brian
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See here on the iPd page listing dampener options for 940:
http://www.ipdusa.com/prodtype.asp?CAT_ID=987&numRecordPosition=0&categorycrumbs=
You have both Bilstein HD and Bilstein Touring, front (struts) and rear (shocks).
Koni Sport.
However, what iPd labels as Boge is NOT Made in Germany (or Europa) Boge. It is Made in Mexico Sachs. These are barely better than the KYBs, Monroe, and like ilk. Though the Made in Mexico Sachs should last somewhat longer.
How do I know? 'Cause a bought a set of so-called Boges from iPd. The Boge Turbo Gas is actually Sachs Touring. And lemme tell you, Sachs Touring AIN'T Boge Turbo Gas.
Considering the price different between Sachs and Bilstein, I'd go with the Bilstein Touring or better.
The only place you can buy Made in Germany Boge is from the Volvo stealership, if at all, anymore. ZF, the German company that owns Boge, does not distribute in North America. Or maybe take a trip to Europa.
While we are glad iPd exists, the intentional mislabeling of Made in Mexico Sachs as Boge is, at least, misleading.
Unless someone could please correct me here, like an iPd representative lurking on this board (hint!), that indeed we have Made in Germany (or Europa) Boge at iPd, well, then, I'd be pleased to know.
Koni (Netherlands, thankfully), and Bilstein (Germany, thankfully) are equal in quality and durability. Yet are a very different design. Yes, Koni Sport are adjustable (for rebound or compression? I forget, and am too lazy to check it, now.)
You may want to go to the Koni web site for other options. I think the Koni reds are also available, yet are stiffer, or more for performance, or spirited, driving. Then again, I forget.
If you like that floaty, Cadillac ride in your Volvo, go with the Made in Mexico Sachs Touring or, softer, Sachs Advantage. Yet you want to reuse the gland nut that came with your Volvo 940 since Sachs seems to make Gland Nuts that are horribly machined and won't take torque when you secure the front struts into the front strut housings.
Also, if mileage and wear warrant, please perform a full inspection and diagnosis of all front suspension components. Bushings (buy Volvo OEM only, as Boge of Germany makes these for Volvo, unless they are now made by the Volvo overlord, Geely of China, as we see with some 240 parts), or Whiteline if you go urethane bushes, ball joints, inner and outer steering rack tie rods. You want Volvo strut mounts, as there, I hoope, are still made by Boge of Europa, unless they are Made in China, now that Volvo is a Chinese company, and not European owned, anymore.
Questions?
cheers,
Duffed.
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Hi guys!
As far as I know, the Sachs shocks you get from the Volvo dealer are the same ones that we sell at IPD; the only difference is that the ones we sell don't have the name "VOLVO" stamped on them.
As far as the original question posed, I really like Bilstein HDs on my cars, but I tend to enjoy a more "spirited" ride, if that makes any sense. The Koni shocks tend to be a bit firmer than the Bilsteins.
If comfort is your main concern, go with the OE Sachs stuff. If you want a stiffer / sportier ride, the Bilstein options (touring class or HD) are a great value.
I'll look at the Sachs stuff we have on the shelf and see what I can dig up!
If any of you have any questions or concerns you can always reach out to me at IPD at 800-444-6473; my extension is 147. You can email too if you'd like. Dylan@ipdusa.com.
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Dylan,
Do you know if Bilstein touring rear shocks still have the oversize mounting hole knocking problem?
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Thanks for posting this info about 900 shocks/struts as I too am in need of a new set on my 94 945.
So Sachs shocks are made in Mexico...
Bilstein touring are made in Germany and better quality... Yet, I have read multiple posts about how Bilstien touring rear shacks knock badly due to an oversized top mount hole. ??? Is this till the case?
And as for strut mounts, who is the OEM manufacturer? How does Lemforder compare?
FCP lists Lemforder mounts at $100 and Volvo OEM at $144. ???
Thanks for any more info.
Bert
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Boge bought Sachs of Mexico some years ago. yet I only ever dealt with Made in Germany Boge when I was a (primarily) Volvo mechanic at repair facilities in St. Louis and the SF Bay Area.
The shear heft of the Made in Germany Boge "Turbo Gas" models versus the Sachs "Advantage" models. The stiff gas charge of the Made in Germany Boge "Turbo Gas" models versus the flaccid Sachs "Advantage" that iPd sells as Boge.
Lemförder, like Boge, is owned by ZF Friedrichshafen AG.
At least you can buy Lemförder in the U.S. Lemförder has not been a primary vendor to Volvo. Yet they do well in quality, yet they may be cheap, want to raise shareholder value before customer satisfaction on a fair revenue stream, well .... they may build someplace in the Western Pacific.
Bilstein Touring rear shocks should include rubber bushes that are either sleeves that slid over the top rear shock mount stud, or are rubber bushing in the form of disc that you place on the top rear shock mount stud, then slide the shock top mounts, and then another of these rubber bushings in the form of disc. Apply torque, and off you go, so I understand. Please research. Look at the Bilstein site or down load their PDF catalogues.
How do the Lemförder strut mounts for Volvo 240 compare with (if they still are) Made by Boge of Germany as OEM for your Volvo 240, well, I have no idea.
I dunno whether Lemförder makes struts and shocks. Not seen Lemförder damapeners before.
144$ a pair or each for Volvo OEM PN 1272455? (The Volvo 240 struts mounts - called SHOCK MOUNT in the Volvo Vadis as you see how Tasca displays it.) Tasca prices these at 74$ a piece as of today.
As pictured on the Tasca parts site:

Other than made by Boge OEM for Volvo, the only other alternative strut mounts may be Made in Europe SKF, maybe. The primary tell-tale of a quality strut mount for Volvo 240 is the use of an open roller bearing race. Though that may not reveal bushing material quality of the process by which the vulcanized or synthetic rubber bonds to the inside of the bushing shell and the outside of the center bearing in them strut mounts.
Boge actually pioneered and perfect this process.
Avoid any strut mount for Volvo 240 that uses a sealed bearing, like URO, APA, Febi, and of course, Meyle. Volvo used to use Meyle with sealed bearings in the 1980s at some point, returning to the open bearing race we still have, thankfully.
Though I hear Meyle may be improving from a part manager at a primarily German auto independent service facility. He gets these parts and the mechanics stick them on VW, Audi, and BMWs, so he says.
The open bearing race allow you to both lube the race, occasionally, and using the dust cap, keep the bearing sealed from weather. You use a SuperLube brand silicon synthetic grease so it is not as damaging to the rubber bushing material. (Keep the grease away from the rubber bits!)
I do recall reading positive experience with Lemförder ball joints and, for the steering rack, inner and outer tie rods. I have Lemförder inner and outer tie rods for one of the Volvo 240 steering racks.
Hope that helps.
Salad Seasonings.
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Lemforder is OEM on all a lot of Volvo front end and suspension parts. Quality German company. It is very likely that they are the strut mounts OEM. Personally, I'd buy the Lemforder and save some money.
On another note, I can't believe that those strut mounts cost so much. When I did my 850's struts and strut mounts about 3 years ago, the mounts were about $25 apiece for OEM.
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Current - 95 855 GLT Sportwagon 255k, Formerly - 90 244 DL 300k
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It looks like Koni's are only available for 940s through 1993. I don't know what the difference is in 1994. I like the highway ride on my 1995 945 with KYB's but they were new on the car when I bought it so don't have anything to compare it to.
John
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We have Bilstein HDs on our wagon and I have to say it is a firm, sometimes harsh ride. They are indestructible shocks, though: they have lasted 160,000 miles. Our 940s all have Boge/Sachs Turbo Gas or Sachs shocks/struts. They are less controlled than the Bilsteins but far smoother on the highway. They too seem to last a long time.
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I understand Koni's are adjustable. Bilstein's are not.
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Current - 95 855 GLT Sportwagon 255k, Formerly - 90 244 DL 300k
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