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Pre heat hose question 200 1990

So, I'm rocking the 'no preheat hose' setup. Just wondering if it has anything to do with keeping me warm in the winter. Because it seems like it really takes a while to heat up the cabin.

Also, if I do go the preheat hose route again, are there good ones anymore? I see cheap ones with bad reviews all over the place nowadays. While I like the 'cheap' part, I also want something that would last.

And yes, I'm aware of the AMM risks, and have a working airbox termo. and backup AMM. Just wondering (again) the risks and rewards..








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    Pre heat hose question 200 1990

    There hasn't been a car made in the last fifteen years that uses an intake air preheat system. It was designed for carburetors back in the seventies, and Volvo was stupid enough to use it on air mass meter systems. I don't know what they were thinking. Rip it off and forget about it.








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    Pre heat hose question 200 1990

    I love living in a warm climate i just rip all that crap out including the heat shield which makes it easy to change the oil filter from the top. RH drive car.








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    Pre heat hose question 200 1990

    So everyone has covered the uselessness of the hose.

    Now, your cabin does not heat up fast enough with Volvo 240 heater? YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. There are a list of things that can cause this but I would start with a failed open thermostat, flush the heater core and check for vac leak causing the recirc door to not not function.

    If none of that works, I suggest you dig deeper. My 1990 240 was slower to warm my sedan than my 1978 was to warm my wagon but both stopped barely short of causing pain at full tilt. The 1990, once warm, could melt an 1/8" of ice fog off the windshield in 10 minutes...the rest of the car in 10 more.








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      Pre heat hose question 200 1990

      Huh.. Never did the thermostat before. Seems like a cheap enough piece, but it probably involves draining the system, replacing the thermo, and refilling the system. Right?

      Also, my temp compensation board has been acting up. I guess I've just been lazy and not diving into that yet. Not sure if they both correlate, but it sounds like I've got some work to do...








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        Pre heat hose question 200 1990

        Thermostat is a simple mechanical device (at least it has not electrical connections) so the temp compensating board is unaffected. A full drain is certainly not required as it is almost a high point on the cooling system with only a part of the head and the coolant overflow bottle higher.

        Be prepared for on the the studs to shear....just a warning.








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    Pre heat hose question 200 1990

    I think you might like a block heater. I use Kats brand. Using a timer, 10 or 15 cents worth of electricity will get you almost instant hot air in the cab as well as much reduced emissions for that first minute or 2.








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    Pre heat hose question 200 1990

    No it does not get the car warmed up faster, just the intake air to the combustion chamber.

    To my way of thinking, that hose being absent risks Volvo's ability to meet air quality specs during the first minute of warm-up after starting. In some states it may also risk your visual emissions inspection, but not the measurement.

    The hose being present risks the AMM when (not if) the air box thermostat fails.
    --
    Art Benstein near Baltimore

    You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says, 'Wow, you're right! I never would've thought of that!'
    - Dave Barry








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      Pre heat hose question 200 1990

      So, in order to keep the 'look' of the stock system, and to keep the airbox thermostat from getting totally baked, I have stuffed the hose, loosely, with a wad of fiberglass insulation. In this way, some warmed air might make its way to the airbox, but I've stopped worrying about toasting out my AMM.

      (A Chore Boy or Stainless Steel scrubby pad stuck in there works just as well, and will last longer than the hose will. Just sayin').

      B








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        Pre heat hose question 200 1990


        I might drill 1" hole on top of the air box and place/glue a patch of clear plexiglass so that I can check any time I want. . . I just never had a time to get it done. :(







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