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4th gear OD lockout 120-130

I have a D type M41 in my 62 sedan. The overdrive functions in any gear, I know that isn't right. I am mostly concerned with it being mindlessly engaged when in reverse. While this has happened, apparently without damage to the overdrive, I don't want to press my luck. How is the 4th gear lockout supposed to function? Where is it on the D Type? I have a spare D and J in my basement that I can use to reference. Thanks again.








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    4th gear OD lockout 120-130

    Start with Eric's description of where the OD lockout is located.

    Once you have found which style, look for it being out of position if the type activated by the shift lever. It should only be closed when the shift lever is in 4th.

    Is the switch itself good. It should be open if the shift lever is off the contact or lever.

    If the type on the trans cover, check to see if the switch is closed at all times. You should have a voltmeter for this check.

    A remote possibility is the reverse switch wiring is exchanged for the 4th gear lockout wiring. Do you have reverse lights in reverse? Reverse lights in 4th? Wires are crossed.

    Duane











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      4th gear OD lockout 120-130

      Years ago when I was faced with the need to drop an M41 to be able deal with a non-working 4th gear lockout switch but did not have the facilities at that moment I took a different path temporarily to be sure I did not engage OD in reverse. What I did was add a buzzer between the OD relay (round three prong) and the reverse relay (also round three prong). Engaging OD provided + to the buzzer and engaging reverse provided ground to the buzzer. If both reverse and OD were engaged the buzzer would sound off.
      It was fun driving it that way-being able to engage OD in the lower gears. Many British sports cars with the Laycock OD were wired to allow OD in 3rd and 4th -- some even in 2nd. For peace of mind I replaced the defective 4th gear switch at the first opportunity. -- Dave








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    4th gear OD lockout 120-130

    The overdrive lockout system is pretty simple.

    There is a switch on the transmission that allows power from your overdrive switch/relay to pass to the overdrive solenoid only when the transmission is in 4th gear.

    Volvo had 2 basic setups, 1 where the overdrive lockout switch is located on top of the shift cover and is activated by the 3/4 gear shift rail inside the transmission. The 2nd style, the lockout switch is located on the side of the shift cover and is activated by the shift shaft of the transmission cover.

    I hope you have an early style transmission as it will be difficult to use the later style in a 122. You either have to use the later shift cover and that requires cutting the sheet metal of the transmission tunnel. Or you have to take the transmission partially apart to install the special 3/4 shift shaft that was only used in the early M41.


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    Eric

    Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)

    Torrance, CA 90502








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      4th gear OD lockout 120-130

      Thanks for the heads up, I'm not totally sure I understand you. You're saying the M41 came in more than one configuration, early and late? And they are substantially different? I was planning on using the existing cover, with long shifter, that's on my M40 now on one 1 of the od trans that I have. I have both a J supposedly from a 140 and a D from a P1800. Both transmissions look alike but have not compared them to whats in the car. The patient in this case is a 67 estate.

      I don't want to touch the sheet metal or mess up the carpet if I can help it.








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        4th gear OD lockout 120-130

        If the J equipped M41 originally came out of a late 140 or a 1975 240 and you want to use the original style of shift cover from your 122, then you will have to install a different 3/4 shift rail.

        And you can use the shift rail from the D.


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        Eric
        Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
        Torrance, CA 90502
        hiperformanceautoservice.com or oldvolvosonly.com








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        4th gear OD lockout 120-130

        The lids are interchangeable. Fit the one that suits you and your set up. M40 lids had no lockout switch and the reverse switch was at the back of the box. M41 lid has the lock out switch or use a modified M40 lid.








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      4th gear OD lockout 120-130

      When I put a fairly late model M41 in my PV, I used the 'long shifter' top from the PV's original M40 (1963). It had no hole for the OD switch, but inside the cover there was a cast in boss in the correct position.

      I took my OD switch from the short shifter top to a hardware store and found a bolt with matching threads (I forget if it was standard or metric really), and bought that and a slightly smaller drill bit. I drilled the cover out, and then took an angle grinder and made a crude tap out of the bolt.

      Some WD40 and wrenching back and forth later, and the cover was tapped for the switch.
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      '63 PV544 rat rod, '93 Classic #1141 245 (now w/16V turbo)







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