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Meyle Filters - They'll keep the light on for ya 200

I was in a pinch for an oil filter so stopped by my local indie mechanic that I frequent from time to time. I purchased a Meyle filter for $6, "Volvo OEM" I was told.

I'd had this filter installed for ~2,000 miles and at every start up the oil light would stay on for 2 full seconds.

Now back in stock in my basement, I replaced it with a MANN filter (~500 miles ago) and no more oil light staying on at startup. It appears the stories are true that the MANN filter has the bests drain back valve design.

Matt









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K&N Filters - They'll keep the light on for ya 200

Hi Matt,

You know, I saved a few bucks and picked up the Advance Auto special deal for synthetic oil and a K&N filter. After your post and alert on "keeping the light on", I noticed that the K&N causes the oil light to come on for a half second at startup, even after only a 2 hour shut-down. Always thought K&N stuff was "superior". Guess not, at least in terms of their drainback valve.

Thought I'd pass on another thumbs up for Mann, man.

Marty Wolfson

Proud member of the 300K club








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Meyle Filters - They'll keep the light on for ya 200

Say NO to Meyle.

Maybe at one time they were good.

I can't speak to their so called Meyle "HD" brand of suspension parts. They only make these in newer cars. Of course, apples with oranges as to oil filters and strut mounts.

Meyle was, for a short period, an OEM provider of Volvo 240 strut mounts. These used a sealed bearing. Sealed bearings are great for spinning around in a plane without too much lateral stress. Volvo went back to the open at the top beefy ball bearing race as with Boge current and formerly SKF. Boge was one of the folks that perfected the bonding between the bushing material and the bushing shell in the rubber bushes.

So far, as with the Fram PH8A (no auto transmission lines here), the Bosch variant of the Fram PH8A variant works fine and the oil light switches off. On special at the some chain with the 5 quart Mobil 1 jug some months ago. I guess the Mann filters are a finer filter with beefer valve that keeps he oil in the filter between run times.

That's funny! Tom Bodet and Motel Six and allusion to George Carlin's seven words! I did not get when I saw it.

Welp, Happy Friday everybody!

cheer,

Dud.
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Maybe I did not see this Motel Six advert. I'm confooosed.








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hi sages- surmise the comparative shopping for various oil filter brands is like the argument which name brand oil is best. 240s call for 10-30 wt oil. on my first oil change on the 92 245 last year i bought quaker state and a mann filter. seems to run well no oil light. wide range of store prices for oils. wal mart seems to be the best price not only for name brand oil but also for their own brand super tech. this 10- 30 has the same sn or sl quality rating as the name brands and is listed for new cars. as you know the standard for oils keeps going up each year. did some research and was told that wal mart which buys everything in bulk to keep the prices down , purchases valvoline oil and puts their store brand on it. would think all would agree that valvoline is a top quality oil. what think you? another question- while mann seems a top quality filter its price is stiff- best ive found is 6.50. have used many kinds of filters since 65 and oils as well. have found no real difference in performance other than 3-4 k oil changes and using a top rated(s scale for new cars). my question is what has your experience been with the old classic purolator brand. have used that on my american cars for many years. they make one for the 240. may try it on the next oil change unless i am warned here not to. thanks tons oldduke








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Meyle Filters - They'll keep the light on for ya 200

purchase MANN filters in a 10 pack for $45 , free shipping from FCPeuro.com
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'90 245 285k, '93 945 296k








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Meyle Filters - They'll keep the light on for ya 200

What Uncle matt82dl says.

In times past, I've found that better, more reputable brands like MANN and, I think, WIX(?) were vendors to parts stores house brands.

That was like, in the 1990s, before all this made in Chinese junk crap and the fall of auto after market parts.

As for oil, you can get name brands as plain label or house brands. Like the NAPA house brand synthetic lubes is made by some reputable company. I'm not sure. Either Castrol, more likely, or, less likely, Mobil 1.

As your Volvo 240 engine wears with age, you won't harm it by moving to a heavier oil like a 10W40 or 15W40 in Summers. Clearances open up like the connecting rod bearing in the piston wrisp pin and journals.

You use a reputable brand like MANN that has that durable valve in it so the oil filter remains full of oil when you shut the hot engine off, and the hot oil remains in the filter and channels upward, so, when you start the engine next time, you shorten the ol pump time to build oil pressure back up.

If I had purchased that nearly new or new 1993 Volvo 240, I would use a quality synthetic from the get go with the OEM mandated oil filters. As the engines age and clearances open, again, try a heavier oil that is more viscous at the base weight in Summer, like a 15W40. In Winter, you may want to try a 10W40.

The modular Volvo engine built to exacting specifications mandate specific lubricant use.

I giving you anecdotal information. You may want to perform more research like at the API (American Petroleum Institute), the reputable engine oil and auto lubricant vendors, and the Volvo Web site as to what engine oils to use as that engine ages.

The API service specifications will always go up as lubricant research on mineral and synthetic lubricants never stops. The demand for a specific performance needed for a specific application in light industry, like your Volvo 240, or heavy industry, like capital projects in building hydroelectric dams (the equipment, the lubricant required in the generators) or mine site equipment. You can also thank NASA for seriously kicking off synthetic lubricant research on a larger scale.

Earl Grey tea fueled expository.

Welp, Happy Sat-Your-Day.

cheers.
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Duffings.








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I had a Bosch premium filter on my 240 for 5k miles. No problems at all. But I have since switched to MANN. I keep them in stock along with some other goodies. IPD sells the 10 pack filters for 45 dollars I believe.
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Teach a man to fish and he will never go hungry. Teach a man to rob a bank, he will never go fishing again.








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Remember how some people misleadingly use the term "OEM": if any part of the car was originally made by Meyle, they are an Original Equipment Manufacturer.

OE, original equipment, is a much safer term, but still not regulated or immune to misuse.

I have used Mann filters since I first bought my 240, but my father has used Napa Gold filters in the past without any noticeable pressure/light issues.








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NAPA Gold is a fine filter. It's actually a WIX filter, which I consider top notch for any engine for which MANN does not make a filter.

Problem is, they tend to be a lot pricier than MANN.








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Yes. I can always tell from inside the car if one of my kids has sneaked off to Jiffy Lube.

By the way, have you heard Bodett's latest commercial? You can make reservations from your smart phone, make them from your dumb phone, but if you need to use the telegraph you're "dot-dot-dot dash-dash-dash dot-dash-dot-dot." That's funny to me on two levels; one of them being the FCC rules on Carlin's seven words.
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Art Benstein near Baltimore\

When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.







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