Volvo RWD 200 Forum

INDEX FOR 10/2025(CURRENT) INDEX FOR 12/2003 200 INDEX

[<<]  [>>]


THREADED THREADED EXPANDED FLAT PRINT ALL
MESSAGES IN THIS THREAD




  REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

posted by  5416u0d on  Sun Apr 28 12:39 CST 2013
Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
last visit: Mon Apr 29 13:40 CST 2013
[RELATED]

Hi. I recently had to swap out my drive shaft due to accidentally buggering mine up trying to replace the carrier bearing. After installing the replacement my car began to slightly vibrate from what feels like from the transmission to the rear axle. It only happens under load from a dead stop and accelerating into first and when going up a hill with the whole thing lasting maybe a couple seconds. Theres zero vibration any other time and everything else feels good. I took my car to the place where I got the drive shaft and after driving my car around the block the mechanic said its the clutch, does this sound right? The u-joints and everything else look good, bearing was good, and I replaced the carrier bearing rubber gasket. Thanks!

1982 245dl m46 transmission








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

    posted by  dobber13 on  Mon Apr 29 07:31 CST 2013
    Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
    last visit: Sat Oct 18 19:10 CST 2014
    [RELATED]

    To change the motor mounts:
    1.Jack up the drivers side of engine to take the weight off mount.
    2. Drivers side- you remove the 3 bolts on the engine mount from block and the 3 bolts under the cross member.
    3.Reverse order to install- put the 3 bolts engine block on first and let jack down slow to aline bolts to cross member.
    4.Jack up the passenger side to take the weight off mount.
    5.remove nut from top of mount and remove 3 nuts from cross member remove mount.
    6.Put new mount on brackets.
    7.Put top bolt on engine mount first and let down slow to aline the 3 bolts to cross member.

    Driveshaft:
    The marks on driveshaft are they paint or arrows ---> <--- ? The arrows are from factory.Clean the 2 half's off about 6" back from each end and you should find them. It is hard some times to line up shaft but the 2 haft's will fit.
    On the new driveshaft is there a new center bearing? Are the U joints new? I don't take a chance,I would replace all of them 1 time.
    They are cheaper to do then keep on removing and install over and over.

    Clutch: I have never heard of one vibrating,slipping yes or chattering.








    •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

      vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

      posted by  5416u0d on  Mon Apr 29 11:20 CST 2013
      Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
      last visit: Mon Apr 29 13:40 CST 2013
      [RELATED]

      I do have some new mounts that I got when I got this car a couple years ago that I'd intended to install. When i tried to get the nut of the first mount the socket slipped and rounded it a tiny bit and for fear of making things even worse I gave up. Any suggestions on getting that nut off?

      When I had the shaft off I was only able to find one arrow. Bearing is old but seemed ok, u-joints are old.







      •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE Replies to this message will be emailed.    PRINT   SAVE 

        vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

        posted by  TONY H on  Tue Apr 30 07:21 CST 2013
        Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
        last visit: Fri Oct 17 16:39 CST 2014
        [RELATED]

        6 point sockets are your friends when it comes to some tight hardware
        --
        '75 Jeep CJ5 345Hp ChevyPwrd, two motorcycles, '85 Pickup: The '89 Volvo is the newest vehicle I own. it wasn't Volvos safety , it was Longevity that sold me http://home.lyse.net/brox/TonyPage4.html http://cleanflametrap.com/tony/








      •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

        vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

        posted by  dobber13 on  Mon Apr 29 12:12 CST 2013
        Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
        last visit: Sat Oct 18 19:10 CST 2014
        [RELATED]

        You need to spray the nut with BP Blaster and I would use a 4 point socket.

        Make sure it's the right size 3 nuts on cross member are 15mm . You may also need to use heat as a last resort.

        When you say the bearing is O.K.(old) I would change it and 3 U joints.Do them all now instead of having to keep pulling the driveshaft and going back again.








        •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

          vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

          posted by  Volvo From Heck on  Mon Apr 29 17:50 CST 2013
          Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
          last visit: Mon Oct 13 20:56 CST 2014
          [RELATED]

          I think you meant 6 point socket as the proper tool to use. I think an '82 should need a 17mm socket for the three nuts under the crossmember. When the original poster states that he tried to take THE nut off I question what nut he is trying to remove. If he means the nut on each end of the mount itself he is going about it wrong---the entire bracket/mount/bracket should get removed and then the mount removed and new one installed on the bench.
          As for the driveshaft--the alignment should be checked for proper orientation of the u-joints--there's really only two possibilities. Looking at a diagram would be helpful to the original poster but I describe it this way---look at the first half of the forward joint (the part that's bolted to the transmission flange) --- now look at the last section of the rear most u-joint (the part that is bolted to the differential flange). The two halves should at 90 degrees to one another--in other words they would make one complete u-joint if joined together. If one of the marks is rubbed off the there will be only one of two possibilities that are correct---unless the shafts have been mismatched somewhere along the way to start with (lol). There should not be any hitch in the range of motion of any of the joints--I've seen far more frozen joints on Volvos than worn out loose. -- Dave








          •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

            vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

            posted by  dobber13 on  Mon Apr 29 18:13 CST 2013
            Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
            last visit: Sat Oct 18 19:10 CST 2014
            [RELATED]

            Thanks Dave,
            I did mean 6 point. My 84 has 15mm bolts and I thought his was also. And yes the orientation needs to be correct like you stated on the driveshaft. I do think he needs to start with the motor mounts since he said they looked bad and the cost isn't that expensive.
            Charlie








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

    posted by  machine man on  Sun Apr 28 21:44 CST 2013
    Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
    last visit: Wed Oct 22 15:40 CST 2014
    [RELATED]

    How are the motor and transmission mounts?

    In a first gear pull that is when they get the most strain to hold everything in-line to opposing torque of spinning the drive line. Once the car moves that torque drops off as soon the mounts hit their limits and the car reaches the gas pedal demand.

    I would double think about the drive train system and consider the right engine mount and the transmission mount! They are a lot cheaper fix so make sure they are not mushy or cracked.

    I can not believe it is a clutch either. They are balanced for life unless you race and it explodes.
    Out of phase drive shaft or a bad balance job is always possible... unless you believe everything is made perfectly. Just how old is the clutch in terms of miles, anyway?

    I can go with, that they think of it being the clutch and not any of their work. That way by doing a clutch job it will fix both problems with out you ever knowing the difference! Except maybe that empty feeling in the wallet, until the next payday!

    Phil








    •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

      vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

      posted by  5416u0d on  Mon Apr 29 02:20 CST 2013
      Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
      last visit: Mon Apr 29 13:40 CST 2013
      [RELATED]

      Engine mounts looked like they needed replacement last I checked. I tried and failed to get the nut off the mount last I tried to replace them. I'm not sure about the transmission mount. I never would have suspected the mounts, thanks!








      •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE Replies to this message will be emailed.    PRINT   SAVE 

        vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

        posted by  TONY H on  Tue Apr 30 07:25 CST 2013
        Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
        last visit: Fri Oct 17 16:39 CST 2014
        [RELATED]

        http://volvo2.homestead.com/240mount.html

        Motor mount replacement help
        --
        '75 Jeep CJ5 345Hp ChevyPwrd, two motorcycles, '85 Pickup: The '89 Volvo is the newest vehicle I own. it wasn't Volvos safety , it was Longevity that sold me http://home.lyse.net/brox/TonyPage4.html http://cleanflametrap.com/tony/








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

    posted by  someone claiming to be CB on  Sun Apr 28 19:07 CST 2013 [RELATED]



    "Hi. I recently had to swap out my drive shaft due to accidentally buggering mine up trying to replace the carrier bearing"


    Sorry, but since nobody else has asked...the Question...what did you do that caused you to ned a new driveshaft????

    and Yes as Daveshan noted, if the "new" one was taken apart without noting the orientation...then there could? be a vibration.







    •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

      vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

      posted by  5416u0d on  Mon Apr 29 02:10 CST 2013
      Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
      last visit: Mon Apr 29 13:40 CST 2013
      [RELATED]

      While trying to remove the carrier bearing I mushroomed the end of the shaft by hitting it with a small sledge hammer. Initially it didn't look like I was doing any damage and I knew I should be using a block to protect the shaft but I very foolishly proceeded :(

      When I bought the used drive shaft the orientation was marked. I did have to take it apart to place the rubber boot over the joint and while it was apart i tried to get it together and did notice it only went together where it was marked.








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

    posted by  artwork240 on  Sun Apr 28 15:37 CST 2013
    Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
    last visit: Mon Feb 3 21:04 CST 2014
    [RELATED]

    If you didnt have this issue before and now you do I would thibk its the replacement driveshaft that is the problem. Maybe its not balanced correctly or the u-joints are seizing up.
    --
    Teach a man to fish and he will never go hungry. Teach a man to rob a bank, he will never go fishing again.








    •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

      vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

      posted by  5416u0d on  Mon Apr 29 02:12 CST 2013
      Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
      last visit: Mon Apr 29 13:40 CST 2013
      [RELATED]

      The u-joints seemed fine prior to installing. I failed to note that I did experience the issue prior but only when the car was full of passengers.








  •   REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE    PRINT   SAVE 

    vibration on accelleration under load, bad clutch? 200 1982

    posted by  pageda on  Sun Apr 28 12:57 CST 2013
    Author: [PROFILE] [EVERY POST] [THREADS] [BEST POSTS] RSS Feed     [IGNORE ALL POSTS]
    last visit: Fri Oct 24 13:18 CST 2014
    [RELATED]

    I would check the U joints before replacing the clutch, you can't tell by looking at them if they are frozen. Lots easier and cheaper than a clutch.
    Dan







<< < > >>



©Jarrod Stenberg 1997-2022. All material except where indicated.


All participants agree to these terms.

Brickboard.com is not affiliated with nor sponsored by AB Volvo, Volvo Car Corporation, Volvo Cars of North America, Inc. or Ford Motor Company. Brickboard.com is a Volvo owner/enthusiast site, similar to a club, and does not intend to pose as an official Volvo site. The official Volvo site can be found here.