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740/1992 Speedometer -- Finally! a Spot of Luck!! 700 1992

For between 2 & 3 years I have been dogged with a failing speedometer in my 1992 740. A year ago it stopped working completely. The speedometer, trip gauge and odometer all stopped working at the same time (and pretty much in tandem). Since then, I have spent quite a few hours troubleshooting the problem. The FAQs on this site have been very helpful in leading me to the conclusion that the problem lay in the speedometer, not the sender in the differential, and not the wiring.

There is a separate section in the FAQs here entitled "Speedometer Repair". Gory details of speedometer disassembly, circuit board cleaning and capacitor replacement are described. Intimidated, I decided to throw money at the problem. First I got a 1989 740 not realizing it is completely incompatible with the 1992. Then I spent $140 at Everdrive.com to get the right one. 3 weeks later a speedometer cluster arrived in the mail -- sadly as nonfunctional as my own. I called Everdrive and they seemed quite accommodating (at that time) and said a replacement had been located and was on its way. Put the junky thing back in the mail and didn't hear anything more for 2 more weeks. Then, smelling a rat when the Everdrive telephone line did not work and the Everdrive website was down I googled around and discovered they had indeed gone out of business. Hmmmm....

So then I revisited the "Speedometer Repair" FAQ, went down to Radio Shack and got an electronics toolkit for $16, a desoldering tool ($10), and some De-OxIt ($15). I used method 2 (involving careful removal of the speedometer needle and de-soldering 2 rather easy blue wires from the microswitch to the board) to separate the circuit board from the mechanical works and expose the troublesome capacitors which tend to leak and eventually need to be replaced. (It's all explained in the FAQ). Sure enough, between capacitors C6, C12 and C7 and the 2 integrated circuits the board was discolored and some of the pins on the chips were black and gooey. Sprayed on the De-OxIt a few times and rubbed off with Q-Tips to clean the area. Also used toothpicks to scratch off the crap.

Anyway, long story long, I reassembled -- and the speedo, trip and odometer all appear to be working. Not sure what the moral of the story is, but I've been wrestling with this for a long while, it seems to be a very common problem and I thought others might be interested to know that all that might be necessary is a bit of De-OxIt and some patience (I didn't even need to use the de-soldering iron and I reassembled without re-soldering the blue wires). And the FAQ, of course -- Many Thanks to those that contributed that:

http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/ElectricalSpeedometerRepair.htm








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    Congrats!

    I did this myself, and "method 2" worked great.

    I think the trick to this problem is to nip it in the bud when you first notice it. Waiting only lets the damage become worse.

    -Ryan








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    740/1992 Speedometer -- Finally! a Spot of Luck!! 700 1992

    I have the same problem. 1992 740. the Speedo works OK but the odo and trip only work when the inside of the car is warm enough. Summer - OK. Winter I have to wait for the car to warm up. Could my problem be identical to yours? I was thinking the gear set was defective.








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      740/1992 Speedometer -- Finally! a Spot of Luck!! 700 1992

      It doesn't sound like it's *identical* to mine, since in my case the speedo, odometer and trip all malfunctioned in concert. (Other posts on the speedo of this vintage seemed to suggest that because of this all-or-nothing behavior that the sender might be the problem rather than the speedo itself -- but I tested the sensor as suggested in the FAQs and observed reasonable output).

      However, the cause may be similar -- leaking capacitors -- which probably result in all kinds of interesting variants/combinations of malfunction.

      I'm not an electrician so far be it from me to encourage anyone to remove their instrument cluster, take it apart, remove the speedo unit, dismantle and treat with De-OxIt. However, I can say that in my case I was very surprised a) that given enough time and a little care it wasn't too difficult following the FAQ; and b) that the process fixed all 3 of the speedo, odometer and trip.

      As pointed out by Lummer57 here, though, this may only be a temporary fix. Sooner or later those pesky capacitors will need replacing and (if I understood his posts correctly) his experience is that this is non-trivial and may not work...








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    740/1992 Speedometer -- Finally! a Spot of Luck!! 700 1992

    Did you replace capacitors C6, C12, and C7? Did you replace anything else?
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    john








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      740/1992 Speedometer -- Finally! a Spot of Luck!! 700 1992

      No, I replaced nothing at all.
      I have new capacitors waiting in the wings. As already suggested, it's probably inevitable that they'll need replacing sooner or later. I'll be honing my soldering skills and looking out for a cheap replacement Yakazi speedo in the meantime.
      Still, that De-OxIt's amazing stuff!








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        Speedometer caps 700 1992

        Hi Rob,

        Glad you got it fixed.
        Those caps must be electrolytics, be sure to observe polarity when installing.
        Replace them before those leaking ones do more damage.
        I use 90% isopropyl alcohol and a stiff toothbrush to clean up circuit boards.
        DeOxit is too expensive and probably better for rotary switch contacts and connectors.

        Bill








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    740/1992 Speedometer -- Finally! a Spot of Luck!! 700 1992

    Congratulations !! I myself attempted this repair on my defective 1991 740 speedo but unfortunately it did not work. I like you did probably should have stopped after cleaning corrosion and as it did in your case that probably would have solved problem. I went further and replaced the bad capacitors and I think this is where I did something wrong. However although cleaning corrosion did the trick won't bad/leaking capacitors make the problem re- occur in the future ? Or maybe that won't happen for some time ? Hope others familiar with this issue can jump in with opinions on this. I ended up putting in a $25 on E Bay independent speedo as used Volvo speedo's were quite pricey(nearly $200 !) and might have same problem. Again Congratulations. I am glad your repair was successfull.







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