OK so its seems many of the Brickboarders are either totally against oil or gas additives, or skeptical or leery, and I have not found anyone yet to say something like: "Hey-this stuff really does work-it’s great" and have others believe him--- EXCEPT maybe for TECHRON! and bit of positive notes on Marvel Mystery Oil (MMO)----Anyway, I was impressed with my research on Torco products and once again here is Jay Leno in a clip with a Torco rep-now don’t go saying something like: “oh he’s full of it" . Truth is-as the general public, we really dont know 'till we've tried it ourselves--which I am going to do next oil change. Here ya go:

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/more-video/torco-motor-oil/

Jay claims he gets no compensation for the product, and I tend to believe him. After all, Jay being a multi-multi- multi, etc- millionaire-why not? Im sure he don’t need the $$$.
Be your own judge. Also-gave me something to do, to make another post-hehe.

Well Im skeptical but good luck. Let us know how it works for you.

Here's an idea - if you like additives, use them. Knock yourself out. If you require some hand holding before, during, and after that choice, you won't find much help on this board.
As for me, I do what I want, and make my decisions on my own.
I know you don't like sarcasm, and the tested sarcasm content of this missive is zero percent.

so weird a post---dont need "hand holding"- If doesn't work and I basically lose the $20 I paid for it, no big deal, but why you say that is beyond me. What did it do for you to even say that? Make you feel better?? again-I donno. i made a choice-my money-and i know the risk, some you win-some you lose. I just try to be enthusiastic about something and then get knocked for it-I figure there are people who lurk around forums ( not just this one) just waiting to pounce on anyone they can, and maybe even delve in sarcasm. If someone else posted what i did, all I would say is something like-"Well Im skeptical but good luck. Let us know how it works for you" and thats it. I have no need to knock anyone down for their enthusiasm or how they spend their money just to make myself "feel better". I made my decision after talking to my ex-mechanic and doing other research. My money, but why some people seem to have a need to knock how I spend my money is beyond me. Well, their problem-not mine. Maybe it makes them feel superior or something to put down others--donno.

You got all that out of my post? Incredible.
Did you read my post?

Remember sarcasm is sometimes a nice way of saying if you believe in "additives" like these and that folks like Jay Leno endorse things just because the want to help ignorant, uninformed people like us, you might be ........, well, you see my point.

Probably has a housefull of useless stuff and a mortgage he never understood because Jay said it was good.
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David Hunter

again-sarcasm as expected.

Poor Anthony2
What really comes to mind is gullible, uninformed, perhaps a bit simple, immature.
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David Hunter

I commented om the obvious sarcasm, u commented on the person-since u do not know me ,this moreso applies to you I think-"gullible, uninformed, perhaps a bit simple, immature" no one comments on a person they do not know-as you did-but u might comment on the words-such as my comments that the words were sarcastic. another forum lurker maybe-just looking to say stuff like that to maybe make yourself feel big?? donno-

as I said-sarcasm--hope your words make you feel better. seriously. Seems you cant handle how I spend my money-if you could you wouldnt say things like that.

Anthony2 - By now you are probably getting the message that the members of this BB are not appreciative of your endorsement(s) of this or any product by referring us to canned clips of Jay Leno waxing enthusiastic about it.

If you personally have specific and relevant experience with some product, good or bad, feel free to "share" that here. Posts like that are what make this BB so useful.

Just BTW, a major Australian car mag tested 10 synthetic oils on the dyno and in the laboratory and rated the Torco product in last or second-last place - can't recall which. Yes, I should provide the reference, but don't have the time to do a Google search...if you do, have at it, it's out there.
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Bob: son's 81-GL, dtr's '94-940, my 83-DL, 89-745(V8) and 98-S90. Also 77-MGB and some old motorcycles.

well thats a strange thing to say-I see "endorsements" of products all the time in this forum-like-"Mobile oil is best"-(actually DELO is the best)-or "IPD is a good parts supplier", or "use Michelins" or "get your seat covers at “this” supplier"(though Ive never used that supplier personally)-on and on-- etc-many many more. I just put in my 2 cents worth and im not tying to sell anyone Torco. I have no vested interest in their product, but just passing on what Ive heard about it just as some pass on their thoughts about Michelins. By the way, your assessment to me of Torco was flawed due first-I was not talking about "Torco OIL" Im mentioning Torco- ADDITIVE-Im afraid-best you see how Torco ADDITIVE works. I have NO interest at all in Torco OIL. Anyway, If you use a bad or well used or low grade oil Torco ADDITIVE will probably not do much. Torco supposedly only keeps the oil you use working at its best potential, and if your oil is substandard Torco ADDITIVE is not going to make it better. It just supposedly keeps the oil you use at its intended and current working level longer. Additives however such as STP can be tested separately, as adding them to your oil is supposed to improve the oils performance-Torco does not- as said-it is supposed to keep your oil at its current best allowing slower "deteriation' of that oil. So as MANY here praise and recommend, ENDORSE, and "advertise" Mobile 1-Torco will supposedly help keep your Mobile 1 at its best-supposedly-Ill find out-but I use Delo-it is the best--oops-sorry.. And btw-you should never use Torco ADDITIVE as an oil-ONLY as an additive just so you know-. Ive heard STP can be run in an engine by itself-though I doubt anyone has tried that. So the tests you mention were only results of the oils themselves, hopefully when they were “fresh”. As far as providing a clip with Jay Leno-Jay has MANY cars as many of us know and I provided that clip one part for entertainment and for another for anyone that’s sees it to make their own assessment. If no one wants to buy the product-big deal-I don’t care. Maybe as far as my so called endorsement I could say something like “look at this crappy clip of Leno endorsing a screwed up product . He don’t know additives suck“-THEN maybe I wouldn’t a been chastised for "endorsing" it EVEN if someone saw that clip and decided they liked it? I think the Bbers here have their own brains and can decide for themselves-I was only sharing something I thought was interesting and mentioned Im going to try it--haven’t yet. Am I also not to mention how much I like my Michelins or show a clip of someone using Michelins? Give me a break. Back to what I said at first-I see MANY bbers endorsing products all the time even some they havnt tried yet-just heard about.. Ill retract what I said also here-“hey Torco ADDITIVE sucks dont look at that clip cause I don’t endorse it. IF you look at the clip it’s just Leno being taken in by that company.” I think the “problem” here is that Bbers just don’t like oil additives so if someone mentions they like so and so additive they attack him right away. “Hey by the way-I like STP”-gonna tell me I shouldn’t say that-like its an endorsement? IPD has a great window spot removal chemical--I posted that for someone and didn’t get attacked for that-why not? Wanna see a clip of me putting STP in my oil? You dont like STP-? that's you-=not me. As I said-give me a break. Please dont buy Torco ADDITIVE.

Anthony2,

You are correct about "additives" being a bad subject on the 240 BB. A number of years ago, when I worked for a company that started with a "Q" and ended with a "comm", a Corporate media analyst got all excited when she ran across an article about a sticker you could put on your cell phone battery to extend the battery's charge and life "up to 50%". It was posted on the corporate intranet for 15 minutes, then it was deleted. Checking the employment status of the media analyst the following morning indicated that she was terminated. She fell for a hoax and paid dearly.

As far as fuel and oil additives, in the commercials make sure you listen for phrases like: "Extends engine life UP TO 500%", or the most common recent media BS about portable WIFI hotspots supporting "up to five" connections. By the way, "Up to Five connections" means that four computers can hook up to it, the fifth is simply impossible.

Up to five equals four max, that's what engineers know, marketers, however that are all about deception to get your dollars believe that "up to five" really means four! How do they sleep at night!

Did I mention the aftermarket companies that spend millions on advertising for high performance air filters and exhaust systems? They always claim "up to" x MPG improvement and/or up to x HP gains! Please, America, when you read or hear the words "up to", don't buy it... unless you want to give away money for nothing.

jorrell
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92 245 299.3K miles, IPD'd to the hilt, 06 XC70, 00 Eclipse custom Turbo setup...currently taking names and kicking reputations!

There is one factor that makes me feel this Torco additive just might be good-I sort of have an small "in" with some car goings on at Lenos-my "ex-mechanic" whom I trust greatly is now one of Lenos' mechanics. He earned a repuation when he was here for being downright honest-trustworthy, reputable and a "H" of a knowlegeable and able mechanic. . I knew him several years also as a friend, not just a mechanic, He-George-and I keep in touch with emails still. I asked George about Torco and he is also one that never really "endorses" oil additives, but he commented the Torco additive really does the job and evidently Leno trusts the product in his many vehicles. George also mentioned Leno really doesn't get compensated, and he could in fact use any oils-additives etc he might so choose,. Well, when George gave his thumbs up, that made my decision to give it a try for myself. I will be using the additive in about 2 weeks at my next oil change. We will see. If there is any noticeable difference in performance, of any kind, mileage, etc, "good" OR "bad" I will say so. When I made that post, i really could care less if anyone else buys it or not, just sharing my own enthusiasm, but knowing the product hasn't been personally "tested" by moi --yet. I will say one product I have "switched to" on Georges reccomendation several years ago, was using Delo oil . Since I started using it, my flame trap STAYS very clean, -didnt with the past oil I was using, and feels to just plain ol' run smoother. Since our brick has never run a "synthetic" I wont start that, as its a good posibilty any synthetic NOW could cause oil leaks to start-and can't have that. The Delo I use is not a synthetic. I try to keep an open mind about oils-additives, even tires and the such-until it's proven to me some product I might choose to use is a waste of money. BBers "advertising and endorsements" of Michelins "made" (my choice) me buy them at last tire purchase of 4 a year ago-and so far they are great. Thanks BBers!

Enjoy your Delo oil that is allegedly endorsed by the chin. Unfortunately, I have responded to your previous posts in a supportive fashion in order to resolve your issues/ideas. You are now going over the line in order to subsidize your alleged retirement income with false marketing. I am embarrassed to know that my responses were a waste of time.

The Chin would also be offended.

jorrell
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92 245 299.3K miles, IPD'd to the hilt, 06 XC70, 00 Eclipse custom Turbo setup...currently taking names and kicking reputations!

Delo is not endorsed by the chin-get your facts straight-I only commented on the chin and Torco-not the oil-My MECHANIC with over 30 years of experience specialty Volvos-endorses Delo. also i am not marketing anything-you read far too much in what I say that is not there. My original post was only to share my enthsuiasm-all i get was basically much that was not there-I dont market anything-you are reading your own thoughst into it not my thoughts-it was sharing of what I enjoy-and all i get is sarcasm and put downs. Scuse me. Its ok tho in one way-in any forum in any subject theres always those who look hard for people to put down-probably makes their day. AS i said in another answer to a post here-IF anyone else for instance wrote that post I made , word for word--my response would only be soemthing like "Hey great, let us know how it works out for you"-that's it--no sarcasm-no put down-just a simple response . I dont have that need-unlike many here obviously. And this>>"You are now going over the line in order to subsidize your alleged retirement income with false marketing." a total untruth. oh well-if it made you feel better--

I would also like to recommend magnetic razor blade sharpeners, magnets that surround your fuel lines, and split fire spark plugs.

I think Jay Leno uses all of these.

I have not been paid for this endorsement.

Hawk

sarcasm as expected.

I have had Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer, full strength, no gear oil at all, in the rear end housing of my 1980 V8 Volvo for the last 10 years or so. I have been thinking about changing it for the last few years but I am lazy. I originally put it in the rear end because the gears were very noisy.

As far as motor oil and all the nonsense additives, it is my humble opinion that MOBIL1 oil is all you need in your oil pan. It is the near perfect motor oil, so quit the nonsense about the crap you are pushing.

in my humble opnion DELO is the oil to use. quote: "so quit the nonsense about the crap you are pushing." :unquote

Honestly, Im about to just quit this forum, because all I hear is Volvo ego-maniacs that spout their wisdom, yet offer no advice. I sought this forum to learn bout my beloved automobiles: Volvos, of course. I have had to work on my treasures (1972 Volvo 164, 1980 Volvo 240 DL) entirely on my own, with no help, and quite frankly I am disappointed. I have posted several times regarding them, yet few responses. I would expect better from collectors of this fine make of automobile! Again, I appeal to you, the Volvo enthusiast, to come to fellow Volvo-lovers aid, and lets get back to what we truly love- the Volvo automobile.
Help is always welcome....

What you say should be posted independently-it would make a great post. but anyway-I don’t blame you for feeling that way. I tried to make a post here simply because it was something I was interested in and most all I got were posts saying I was spamming -marketing etc-basically stupid weird reply posts-lots of sarcasm--It was just something I was interested in-thats it. There’s always those that lurk around forums trying to find anything they can to jump into and put down the person. I can only imagine it makes them feel better about themselves. Anyway if I see you post something and if I feel I can help I will. If YOU see me make a post and its about some product and/or a video-just accept it as me having fun-NOT marketing or spamming-. I have no need to do that, just like to share what I might find interesting even if some others don’t. cant please everyone. Good luck.

Hi,


Are you using Torco?


Goatman

I AM TIRED OF YOUR BU*%#} POST AND I AM TIRED OF YOUR SPAM!!!

Here I am trying to help people with REAL problems and you repeat post about some garbage product and you think it's funny!!!


HAHA,
Goatman

I AM TIRED OF YOUR UNDERLINED POSTS AND I LIKE SPAM w/MUSTARD AND MAYO!! IM TIRED OF WHEAT BREAD TOO! actually i could care less if you or anyone uses Torco products-just sharing that's all. So without doing any actual and real research with 100s of tests you know Torco is garbage? Otta make a million being the oil products judgement king. me-I have faith when I wish-my right-my choice and I like to share AND Ive done my bit in BB to help and will continue to do so. hAHa Þ~~~~~~~~thbbtt

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I've gone through some techron and now have been trying some redline fuel system cleaner. I put a little bit of the redline in every other fill up. Paid $10 for it and ya I can tell a little difference the first little while but it hasn't cured my bad idle that seems to be cleared with each little fix but then returns to 500 rpm after a little time. Bad grounds and electrical connections have been the main problems or actually the vacuum leaks. I've had plugged up fuel filters and change them about once a year. So putting fuel cleaner through is just a little lady luck in my opinion. But its kind of like having that royal match bet out there. Sometimes it can help but most of the time its a waste of money.

Ive had similar issues at times-my mechanic suggested I try some MMO in my fuel-NOT the oil. Now this is MY personal experience-the MMO cleaned everything right up. MMO is a petroleum detergent and was formulated, many years ago when oils really didn’t have "detergents. I figured what the heck-as I was probably headed towards having my injectors removed and either replaced or cleaned out, if possible. I now put in about 6 ounces of MMO in the fuel tank once a month or so. I was amazed how it cleared up sluggish idling and quite quickly, after the first one 8 oz use on my apparently somewhat clogged fuel injectors. I have heard others here in the 'Board make the same general claim as to MMO’s effectiveness. I would suggest give it a try. Generally 6 ounces per fill up once a month AFTER your engine smooths out although Id go maybe 8 ounces first time until its running smoother,-- hopefully. Now I know MMO is not a “cure all“-depends what the actual cause is-in my case it was apparently “deposits” that MMO cleared up. It is suggested you do not add it to your oil as probably most if not all oils now have detergents on them, but to use it only as a fuel additive its great. Once a month is a good upkeep schedule along with an occasional bottle of Techron. They work in different ways, Techron was not helping my particular issue at the time but MMO did what Techron could not, so I use both, though not at the same time. BTW I now buy MMO in the large bottle-cheaper that way-I still have the small bottle so I fill up the small bottle from the big bottle using a small funnel as handling the small bottle to pour it in is much easier. It has lines on the side in ounce increments which makes measuring easy. I also use the same funnel for pouring it into the fuel tank. OK --sorry for spamming MMO-well-everyone else spams Techron so I guess this one is ok--? I WILL give you my personal results on using the Torco oil additive later on-just a short spam-uh-report. One thing you said-"Sometimes it can help but most of the time its a waste of money"-way I see it -it's MY money to waste -if that be the case. Cost me with shipping $20 for that 12 oz bottle of Torco--but as i said-Its MY money. Maybe will work, maybe won't- not anyone elses problem. I am only reccomending MMO to you--but it's also your money-your choice. If you can't afford to take a chance--don't. One thing i do is, on any gamble-ask myself can I afford to lose? If cant-then I wont. IF the Torco additive don't work-I won't be in the poorhouse, but I researched many sights about it before deciding to take that chance. Good luck in any event. Let us know how anything you might try works out.