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My mechanic can't even get get my car started 200 1989

posted by philvo on Sun Jun 20 11:48 CST 2010
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Hi again,
My '89 240 is still not running ( or starting). Here is what I have replaced and done.
1. new plugs, good used coil, new bosch dist. cap and rotor.
2. new crank position sensor, bougicourd
3. good used AMM and ign. power stage.
4. swapped out ICU and ECU bosch 951
5. cleaned TB and new gasket
6. good fuel pump relay and 25 amp fuse (marine type)
7. cleaned grounds for the neg battery cable.
8. I have gas, air and spark.injectors are pulsing. mech did a flow test and that was fine.
9. mechanic says TB is on correctly, I did reset it before bringing the car to him to make sure that wasn't the issue. I think it still may be the problem.
What happens if I moved something and it is off ? won't the car start but run like crap ? crank pulley mark lines up, cam is at TDC and the I shaft is on the #1 wire on the dist.all marks were on the right spots on the back timing cover.
Can I be sure the crank is dead on ? do I go by the pulley mark or the sprocket ?
I need my car back !!
Thanks, Philvo

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My mechanic can't even get get my car started 200 1989

posted by 122 and 940 and too many on Sun Jun 20 12:05 CST 2010
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The scatter gun approach to diagnosing this will cost you a fortune, prpbably is costing you a fortune judging by what has been done.

Go back to basics. Was it running before it got messed with?

Are the plug leads on in the right order?

Have you done a compression test? It can't fire without compression.

Is the belt on correctly? If the balance shaft pulley is out the distributor will be out.

Do you have the correct fuel pressure? You can have fuel but if the pressure is low it won't fire.

Don't just check the timing marks on the pulley, it isn't unknown for the pin on the camshaft to shear or the rubber on the harmonic balancer to fail. It can look like the belt is on fine but they aren't. A quick prod at the piston through a spark plug hole and a glance at the cam lobes will tell you. All this basic stuff should be done before throwing parts at the problem. An AMM for instance won't stop the car starting from cold, it just has a defauult reading in the ECU. It might run like crap, but it will start.

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posted by pageda on Sun Jun 20 12:00 CST 2010
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Phil
If you have spark and fuel my guess is the timing belt is off a tooth or two. Sometimes they start and run like crap, sometimes they just don't start.

I think you need to verify timing belt marks once again. The intermediate shaft is difficult to see, I use a small mirror.

I have had a bad cap and rotor cause a no start.

Dan

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My mechanic can't even get get my car started 200 1989

posted by philvo on Sun Jun 20 12:03 CST 2010
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Thanks Dan, I will look closer after I have the car towed back home. I wonder if my crank pulley is spun ?

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posted by TONY H on Mon Jun 21 04:27 CST 2010
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I too would check the timing.
Top Timing cover can be opened up enough to peek in there, The intermediate is hard to see but pull teh Distributer cap off and see that the rotor is facing to #1 plug. I guess you need to pull teh crank pulley to see if the Groove in the Crank is facing at about the 11:00 position. Should be facing up directly toward the Cam.
Did this 'no start' just show up or was it running bad for a while?

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posted by pageda on Sun Jun 20 12:27 CST 2010
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You say you have gas, does that mean wet spark plugs? And you see spark at the spark plug? Make sure plug wires are in the correct order.
Dan

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posted by pageda on Sun Jun 20 12:18 CST 2010
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Phil

It may have spun but if you check the timing marks on the engine it will not matter.

http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/B230FTimingBeltAlignment.htm

Dan

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