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IsItPossibleToRemoveTurboAndRunOKInNonTurboMode? 900

I have a 1994 940 turbo wagon with 195K+ miles. I would like to keep this car up and have it running reliably. The turbo unit is OK at the present time. However, I understand that when turbo unit does need service it can take some time and may need to be shipped for machine shop attention.

I am curious to know:
1) Could the turbo unit could be removed leaving in a drivable and safe condition?
2) If so, is it easy, what's involved and is there a documented procedure for this?

[My searches so far have turned up multiple reports of conversion from non-turbo to turbo mode, but nothing on conversion from turbo to non-turbo]

Thanks,


Rob








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    IsItPossibleToRemoveTurboAndRunOKInNonTurboMode? 900

    If you take a look at the specs for a NA 940 and a Turbo 940, you'll find that they are very different cars; it's not just a turbocharger bolted to the exhaust. Turbo 940s have a lower compression ratio, a different ECU (or at least a different software running the ECU), a slightly different AT, a rear differential with different ratios, different exhaust, even different spark plugs! Do not remove the turbo from your car. I totally agree with other posters that the turbo should last you a long time, and if it fails, it will give you enough time to plan its repair or replacement. Mine was making a funny sound on decelerations, a couple of years ago, so I had it rebuilt at shop specializing in trucks and buses' turbos. They had it ready in 2 days, good as new. I would follow the advice others have given: change your oil religiously, drive the car slowly until it warms up, and allow it to cool after "spirited driving" before shutting down. Take a look at the small intercooler hoses which are often overlooked and may need replacement. Check the air intake hoses for holes or softness, and always have a clean air filter installed. I was told that if debris/dirt gets sucked by the turbo it can damage the pallets due to the high speeds. Finally, remember that you own a tank, so don't worry beforehand, and follow the golden rule: if it ain't broken, don't fix it.








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      IsItPossibleToRemoveTurboAndRunOKInNonTurboMode? 900

      Mr wizzard, Tell me more about the funny noise on deceleration that you had please. I have something similar I think but I can't isolate where it is coming from. thanks.








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        IsItPossibleToRemoveTurboAndRunOKInNonTurboMode? 900

        Hello Chrisinct! In my case, when the hood was open, the sound coming from the turbo was very noticeable when you released the accelerator. Try pulling on the accelerator cable from the engine bay and letting go all of a sudden. My car would make a loud sort of 'gggrrrr' noise (sorry, can't think of a way of describing it) that you could clearly hear coming out of the air filter box. This noise would appear as soon as you would let go of the throttle cable, and it would die gradually as the turbo slowed down (it doesn't spin that fast when parked). The guys at the turbo shop unbolted the intake hose, and after a couple of minutes, (with the turbo still really hot!!) a guy just poked his finger in there to feel the propeller... He said there was lateral and axial movement, which was causing the noise, as the compressor wheel would touch the housing. It could have been caused by poor lubrication, or a big hole on my air intake hose which supposedly allows lots of debris (and even parts of the hose's rubber) to get inside the turbo and damage it. Luckily labor is cheap here, and I got a full rebuilt plus a "temporary patch" on the intake hose (which I'm still using) for approx $150USD.








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    IsItPossibleToRemoveTurboAndRunOKInNonTurboMode? 900

    I have a 1988 765 GLE that was de-turboed 50,000 miles ago. All that I did on the original engine was to put an expansion plug in the block turbo oil return hole, put on an N/A manifold with drop pipe off of an N/A 245, and remove the remote oil filter unit (and shorten the bolt).

    Since that was done to lengthen the life of a severely worn block, I changed to an N/A engine after a couple of thousand miles. There was no change in mileage and very little HP loss below 3000 rpm.

    Regards,








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    IsItPossibleToRemoveTurboAndRunOKInNonTurboMode? 900

    I came across a 740 in the junkyard that someone had removed the turbo and then had plates welded on both sides of the manifold to close the openings that the cartridge would have normally occupied.

    Of course the normal routes for coolant and oil would need to be dealt with as well.

    I think you would be disappointed with the results; even more of a slug than a normally aspirated engine.

    Randy








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    IsItPossibleToRemoveTurboAndRunOKInNonTurboMode? 900

    I am not sure how a Turbo car could operate without the actual turbo installed. You would have open oiln & coolant lines- not to mention a disconnected exhaust manifold(very, very loud). If you are truly worried about being without a car for a few days I would find a good used($125) or rebuilt($350) turbo so If yours fails you could install the other in about an hour or two. I think Turbos usually fail quite slowly so you prob wouldn't be left on the side of the road should yours decide to go.








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    IsItPossibleToRemoveTurboAndRunOKInNonTurboMode? 900

    Anything is possible but this modification is not easily done or recommended...
    Better take good preventive measures and the turbo will last you the life of the car, may be. Change oil regularly, preferably with full synthetic, observe warm up and cool down, and you'll be fine...







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