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AW Transmission repair or replacement? (San Diego) 200

I have a failing transmission in a '93 240 and I'd like to do something about it before I get stranded. I've tried all the easy fixes to no avail.

I described the symptoms here: Transmission won't shift out of 1st when cold

I've sourced a used AW71 for $200 from a local 'parts warehouse' but I'm not sure if this is a job I should tackle alone. Alternatively, I could get a shop to rebuild or replace it (does anyone know of a decent place in San Diego to do so)?

In terms of confidence, I know that I can undo/redo bolts, but how easily is this thing let down, moved, replaced and how impossible will those bolts be to undo? The prospect of doing it has me pretty nervous, but so did cleaning the flame trap for the first time.

Advice? Wisdom?

(Also, are the AW70, AW71, AW71-L and AW70-L all interchangeable?)








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    AW Transmission repair or replacement? (San Diego) 200

    So, I was waiting for the 1st of the month so I could make the tranny switch with cash (I know, sad but I'm a student so cut me some slack) and all the while I was babying the fluid level and quality. Now, more or less out of the blue, the trans will shift from 1st - 2nd almost normally, without warming up, although it does have troubles shifting back down into 1st.

    These AW are black boxes, but does anyone have insight to what I might do next? Is this thing self-healing?








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    AW Transmission repair or replacement? (San Diego) 200

    It is not so bad but yes it is awkward. I left the dipstick on and unbolted it from the block since that big nut on the trans pan can be very stubborn and twist the pan. The starter bolts can be gotten with very long extensions. Harbor freight has them cheap as well as a trans lifter jack for cheap.
    Make sure you disconnect the kickdown cable first so it doesn't break or pull out of the sheathing!
    Elsewise everything is gruntwork. The top housing bolt was best gotten from the engine top with a long 3/4" wrench. The flywheel bolt are accessible one at a time as you will see.

    I have been very happy using the top shelf synthetic auto trans fluid that really helped smooth out the trans and provides longevity.

    Take your time, go slow. It's all step by step. Change that rear seal on the engine block (a must) Also you might change the rear seal in the trans itself. I knew my trans was very good, but you might take your to a trans guy for a look see/ cleaning and rear seal replacement.

    I'm 57 and I did it by myself. You will get oily and throw away about 3 sets of old clothes. But its worth it and saves a grand or so. And you have the satisfaction of knowing you can always repeat the process to save another Volvo or preserve yours.
    I found a very nice transmission from a fellow that totaled his Volvo but saved the trans and sold it to me for $300. It's wrapped in storage awaiting a day when it can be transplanted to another Volvo to keep it going. You just cannot find a less expensive higher quality transmission than this. Good luck








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    AW Transmission repair or replacement? (San Diego) 200

    Call RC Imports down in Chula Vista, Rick or his dad will put one in and guarantee it for 90 days. I used him to replace one in an '84 that I used to have when I lived there. This was in spite of the fact I could have pulled a used one from Ecology for ~$90 and put it in myself. It used to be $400 but that was 6 years ago or so.

    Come to think of it I hope they're still open ;-) Time does fly.
    --
    Dave Shannon
    Durango, CO
    '67 1800s
    '88-240
    '01 Wrangler
    '06 F250 Diesel 4X4








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      AW Transmission repair or replacement? (San Diego) 200

      I talked to Rick on the phone. He is still in business and has a '93 240 trans. $250 + tax for the part, $200 for the labour. Seems like too good of a deal.
      Thanks for the tip - I didn't realize it, but I had been to this yard before.








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        AW Transmission repair or replacement? (San Diego) 200

        Good deal, I'm glad they're still in business. They're one of the few mechanics I trust, hope it all works out for you.
        Cheers
        Dave
        --
        Dave Shannon
        Durango, CO
        '67 1800s
        '88-240
        '01 Wrangler
        '06 F250 Diesel 4X4








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    AW Transmission repair or replacement? (San Diego) 200

    do not waste your money having one of these rebuilt. there are literally thousands of good ones in junkyards across the country.

    if you have not taken one of these out and do not have help and the equipment to lower it and raise it back into position do not even attempt it.

    to have this rebuilt will cost you upwards of 2000 dollars.

    this is what i strongly suggest you do to maximize your money and your time and to get the best job possible.

    the economy is not good now and its effecting everyone. call transmission shops around your town and ask them this:

    1. i have a failing automatic trans on my 240
    2. i have a good used replacement in my trunk which i would like you to install for me AFTER removing my old one.
    3. how much will you charge for cash for this service?

    you should be able to find a good professional shop willing to do this job for 250-450 dollars. they have the equipment and expertise and for them the job is few hours tops. of course tell them you exact no warranty from them for the actual trans performance since all they are doing is providing labor. this will be a major stumbling block for them since they will have no knowledge if the trans they install is any good, so you must make it clear you relieve them legally from that obligation. their only obligation is the correct installation.

    i also suggest if you know the trans for 200 is GOOD you bring along a gasket set for the shop and YOU replace the tailshaft bushing, seal and tailshaft gasket BEFORE bringing the trans to the shop for final installation. those parts are at most 25 dollars and an hours time for you with the trans on the floor.

    PS: i also suggest you mark in easily seen paint or marker the precise alignment of the bolts and driveshaft position on to the tailshaft flange. this is balanced at the factory and if not replaced all in the same place and position can find a vibration introduced into the spinning driveshaft.

    mark all the bolts and nuts 1-4 and mark where 1-4 goes on both the driveshaft end and tailshaft end.








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      AW Transmission repair or replacement? (San Diego) 200

      Good advice but you do not a transmission shop to slap in a tranny. Any well equipped shop can do it. I would tend to stay away from tranny shops, their typical business mode is based on removing someone's tranny, partially dismantle it on the bench then tell the owner how much it will all cost. This encourages a lot of rougues to enter that business.
      --
      David Hunter








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      Shaft-to-flange matching? 200

      "PS: i also suggest you mark in easily seen paint or marker the precise alignment of the bolts and driveshaft position on to the tailshaft flange. this is balanced at the factory and if not replaced all in the same place and position can find a vibration introduced into the spinning driveshaft."

      I have to question that, Ted, although I have seen that caution in the Bentley* manual. I've never worried about flange/yoke matching in my own adventures, with no ill effects noted. And I know that driveshafts are commonly balanced at specialty shops, while removed from the flanges at each end (as when I had a front section shortened and rebalanced with the rear half for a 240 V8).

      Seems to me that if it was that critical, the factory would punch-mark the flanges & yokes at each end the same way they put alignment arrows on the front & rear driveshaft sections.

      The Bentley* 240 manual does say to match both flanges, and that the 1988 and later cars have colored markings at the rear end of the driveshaft and flnge. But there's nothing like that in the 140 or 240 Green Books. They say only that "A propeller shaft is prepared and balanced as a unit", with no mention of flange/yoke matching in the removal/replacement instructions.

      --
      Bruce Young, '93 940-NA (current), 240s (one V8), 140s, 122s, since '63.








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      AW Transmission repair or replacement? (San Diego) 200

      Thanks for the good advice and the price range estimates. This is the route that I will follow.

      Any word on the AW interchangeability? I would ideally like to get a AW7_-L under there if I can.








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        AW Transmission repair or replacement? (San Diego) 200

        Dave!! What did you do? I just logged on to look for info on my failing windshield wipers. Good luck getting back on the road
        -Marco








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          AW Transmission repair or replacement? (San Diego) 200

          I drove this thing into a puddle that was deeper than anticipated, back in December. I'm pretty sure the trans failing is due to that.

          The worst part is that during the last week's storm I've seen about at least a dozen other cars stuck in the same puddle. no 240's though.








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    AW Transmission repair or replacement? (San Diego) 200

    First I have never replaced a tranny and have no plans to do one.So, if you have access to a lift and a tranny jack then the job is not to bad.If you are doing it shade tree with jack stands and the like expect a few set backs.The tranny is heavy and clumsy.A buddy or two for help and moral support is a plus. You will still need some type of jack to lower and raise the trannies.If you have shop do it you may as well have your rear engine seal replaced at the same time.I knew a fellow who loved doing tranny work and he was very good at rebuilding too.He would do all the work in a parking lot with floor jacks.He would also take the tranny home and rebuild them,then reinstall them.Sadly he moved and I have lost track of him.Good luck!Be careful.







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