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Tips on removing window trim & bumper interchange 120-130

Hi guys - two quick questions;

1) Got the gutter trim off easily, it was damaged anyway so just ripping it off went pretty fast. (ha!) Any tips for the trim around the front and rear windows? These bits are in good shape still and I'd rather not mangle them.

2) Will the one piece 1968 bumper interchange on to a 1967 car that had the multi-section bumpers?








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So windows out then? Paint, then new seals and original window goes back in then what ever trim I've been able to save?

Oh man - I can see this is going to start getting expensive ;-)








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The tradition of spending more money than these little darlings are worth continues...I've never seen 1 piece factory bumpers on any 122, but I suppose you could spend the time to do the old hotrodder's trick of welding up the three pieces together, and then welding the bumper bolts in to the bumper after you ground the head of the bolt off, and then spend the $320.00 to have it rechromed. I used a product called SOMACA Super-seal on my windows when I redid them. It is a neutral cure silicone sealant made for Sommer & Maca, 5501 W. Ogden Ave., Chicago Il. 60650. About $12.00 per tube, if I recall, and so far after 4 years no issues. Happy New Year, too!








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So just take an razor blade to the old seals, take the windshield out, the trim along with it. Did you guys just put the seals back in yourself or did you higher someone to to put the windshield back in?








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I refit them myself. There is a lot of bull* talked about refitting the aluminium trims. First fit the window, then the trim. I have some instructions somewhere I wrote for someone. I have posted them here before.








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Thanks - I'll do another search. I've never pulled / reinstalled a window and from hearing all of the horror stories I'm a bit gun-shy as you can tell...








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There you go, I saved it, it's a boring thing to type!

I would strongly advise using a new windscreen seal when re fitting the glass into the car.
I’ve had the best results with 3M non-setting black windscreen sealer to seal the windscreen into the aperture. It can get messy, but it doesn’t affect the paintwork. I clean it off using penetrating fluid, rather than a conventional solvent. Squirt a little sealer into the groove in the seal that holds the windscreen. Then fit the rubber seal onto the windscreen. My personal preference is to put the welded rubber join in the rubber at the bottom centre. Whatever you do centre that joint either top or bottom.
You then fit a cord into the lip that holds the rubber into the aperture in the car. Use a stout cord; don't use thin string it will rip the seal once the windscreen is nearly home. I much prefer the string so that you have the two loose ends at the bottom centre.
You then place the windscreen onto the car, making sure the cord ends are both inside. At this point it is important that you centre the windscreen from left to right. It is possible to do the job on your own but I would advise a helper if you haven't done it before. It is extremely difficult, if not impossible to move the windscreen left/right once fitted. If it isn’t centred properly one corner won’t fit quite right and it will leak.
You then apply GENTLE hand pressure to the screen; you'll only rip the seal if you get forceful. You then pull one end of the cord, slightly up, pulling the lip into the car. As you apply pressure to the screen GENTLY persuade it downwards. Stop when you have gone just past the corner and do the same for the other side. Make sure the screen is settled well down and EVEN from left to right. Then pull the rest of the seal into the aperture. Look inside the car to see the lip is even. Now pump in lots of the black goo, a bit of masking tap at this point makes cleaning up easier but the stuff shouldn't damage paintwork.
You then go round and press the seal down until it is properly settled. If the screen isn't properly centred you will find that as you work your way round the bottom corners alternatively pop up leaving a gap twixt body and seal. Once again make sure the lip inside the car is even.
The outside trim is a B****rd to fit. It is important however and it has to be done last. It actually expands the rubber slightly to provide the final seal. There are different schools of thought on this, but I prefer to fit the trim dry without lubrication. If you lubricate the rubber the trim pops out of the seal faster than I can fit it. Fit your rope into the lip the trim goes into forcing it as far into the lip as possible. You then have the lip standing proud.
You then get the trim and hook it into the bottom lip then gently twist so the top is also engaging with the rubber. You then pull the trim to the outside of the car so that the vertical part engages with the rubber. At this stage the trick is to get the vertical part to stay in. You then make sure the bottom part is engaged and you start to pull out the string towards the centre of the glass. My personal preference is to work from top to bottom but it doesn’t make much difference, you use one hand to stop the metal from popping your other hand pulls the string. When you’ve not done it before what tends to happen is that the aluminium trim rides up and disengages from the seal lip, try to avoid that happening. However when the trim is only half fitted there is actually enough play to pop the rubber back into the aluminium trim with a metal hook if you miss a bit, a thin blunt screwdriver with a bent end something like that.
When one half of the trim is fitted slide the two centre joiners onto the half you've just fitted. Slide them all the way onto the metal. Then fit the other half of the trim, and centre the joiners.
I tend to fit them on my own, but I’ve done lots, a second pair of hands makes the job easier. Also wear gloves when pressing on the glass; safety first and all that.








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Damn it man - I need details not this high level fluff ;-)

This is AWESOME. Thanks!








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You're in! That is about as concise as I'v ever seen one of those write-ups on this style of seal. If it looks like too much work and/or you dont want to risk a new windshield, your local glass installers can put this in AND probably have a guarantee to go with it. East now sells a windshield reconditioning kit that looks pretty sweet. I saw it on a recent episode of "trucks!" on Spike TV. Looked like a great way to recondition your glass, and a better time than having it already out would be hard to find. Be sure to get a new gasket in hand and say that you have one if you ask for a quote from the glass shop. They'll probably think that they can't be obtained for that "ol' forrin' car" that just pulled into their driveway. (!)








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If you're not going to remove the windows there seems little point in removing the trim. The seals aren't killer money, but it's true enough that all those "small" amounts add up to a tidy sum.








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All the bumpers, right up to production end in 1970 were 3 piece. If you have one that isn't someone has been creative.

The best way to get the screen trims off undamaged is to cur them off with a sharp knife and fit new seals. The old seals are hard to get a good seal on anyhow.








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One piece? Are you sure?
Should fit. Wonder if it is an aftermarket item.
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George Downs, Bartlesville, Heart of the USA!







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