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Another tire thread... 200 1993

Hi all,
Sorry to put up another tire thread, but with the large number of variables in tire buying that fly around I want to try to get things straight in my head to make the right choice. I've read plenty of threads which have been helpful, but still have some questions.

'93 245 needs new tires, especially as bad weather will not be far off. Winters in KY are pretty tame so all season tires should do me well. M+S rating correct?

Stock tire size was 185R14 which I understand to be equivalent to 195/75/14. (Although I read some threads saying 195/70/14- 75 is the correct one, no?)

Currently on the car are 205/70/R14, which, when I do the math, gives a sidewall height of 143.5mm. A 195/75/R14 has sidewall height of 146.25mm, so that difference is negligible and probably close enough to stock spec. So the question on that is:

What handling differences (if any) are there between 205/70 and 195/75? Any diff in mpg (always hopeful)? Are these 2 sizes the best choices?

Once I know what size I need/would prefer- which tires are people enjoying? I have read posts with good thoughts on michelin and yokohama, but am curious as to what the options are and how the favorite tire from 6 months ago is performing these days. I'm looking for something with decent longevity, reasonable price, etc etc.

Thanks for reading and for any help!
God Bless
Koos








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    Another tire thread... 200 1993

    I just put a set of 195/75-14 Michelin X from costco on my 245 (88), for 300.00 tax and everything. I can just say that they improved the ride greatly. Way better than the 100.00 for 4 set that they replaced.

    Hawk








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    Another tire thread... 200 1993

    This is a handy tool for determining speedometer error from various tire sizes:
    http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

    The original 245 tire was a 185/80-14, a size pretty much unobtainable now.

    195/75-14 are almost exactly the same circumference as the originals while the 205/70-14 tires are a little bigger.

    I've had both sizes on 240s and they worked fine.

    195/75-14 is becoming a rare size these days as well. Probably the best readily available tire in that size is the Kumho Solus KR21. I've never used them personally, and the "Made in Vietnam" labeling I saw on one at a tire shop gave me pause.

    There are still lots of choices in the 205/70-14 size. I like the Yoko Avid T4s in that size.

    P.S. There are 185/80-14 load range C tires still made in the original 185/80-14 size. The primary market for those is VW Vanagons, but some 245 owners commenting at tirerack.com seem to be happy with them on 245s. Check out the Yoko Y356 http://www.tirerack.com/survey/SurveyComments.jsp?additionalComments=y&commentStatus=P&tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Y356&partnum=8R43566&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes










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    Another tire thread... 200 1993

    On my first 245 (an '88), I used 195/70-14, then 195/75-14, and ended up with 205/70-14 for at least 100K miles. The latter are just a touch wide for the stock 5.5" wide wheels, but I drive pretty aggressively and I never felt it was too much tire or rolled too much for the car. I also kept them pumped up to 36 psi.

    Over the 250K miles before the car was retired due to being hit, I ran the stock Michelins, Continentals, Toyos, and Yokohamas. By far the best were the Yokos - the Avid T4 in particular. Good life, good traction and wet handling, and decent steering feedback. The worst were the Michelins (too hard a compound, trading poor traction and handling for good wear) and the Toyos (way too slippery in the wet).

    The 195/75-14 has the least speedo error and actually has an improved load range (92) over the stock tire (90). The 205/70-14, as you pointed out, is slightly smaller in diameter which results in a trivial 1% speedo error, and has a load range of 93.

    "All weather" tires is a marketing myth, and if you need to travel in snow frequently, bite the bullet and get dedicated snow tires. The M+S rating is based solely on rubber-to-groove area and has no actual performance definition; tires intended for ice + snow have the little mountain peak icons on them and must meet winter performance requirements. Doesn't sound like you need those, though.
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    In God We Trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them.








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      Another tire thread... 200 1993

      I get the best tire already on the rim from the pull-a-part. Just got a brand new pair of goodyear tires off a 740 wagon. I thought they where 195's at first but ended up being 18570R14. But they are brand new. On the steel rim that fits my 83 wagon. So at the moment I might be running 195 70 R14 on the rear and the 185 on the front? Or I might just have all 185's on since the now 86 244, soon to be parts car, has a pair of goodyears 185 bought earlier this year. My goal would be to have 205's but from what I've read in your post the 195 75R 14's would be close to the same. Which I ran at one time when I got a pair off a wagon at the Pull-a-Part.







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