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I assume that these factory power mirrors for the 240 (GL? Turbo?). The seller says that they came from a 1984 240. How would I fit these onto my 240 with crank window winders? Has anyone else replaced their cranks with these?

I assume that I'll need the armrests that have the mirror controls built into them along with the inner door panel built for that armrest's mounting.

What about wiring; is the wiring to power these already laying somewhere in my car?
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Mike F - 1984 244 DL - 285,000 miles
Original engine, transmission, drive train, starter
Undergoing reconstructive surgery with POR-15

Thanks for the feedback. I was hoping that it would be a relatively easy swap / plug and play upgrade. Maybe it's best if I wait for a complete set of mirrors plus the wiring and switches. At least I know that OEM power mirrors for the pre-'85 240s were made.
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Mike F - 1984 244 DL - 285,000 miles
Original engine, transmission, drive train, starter
Undergoing reconstructive surgery with POR-15

I have a complete set including cover plates, switches, wiring harness I was going to install in my '88 245 before selling her to my sister. I would sell the whole set for $70 or trade for other Volvo parts. Only catch is the one mirror needs to be repainted.

I did this conversion to my '88 244GL. It's not difficult but labor and time intensive. You will have to remove door panels, kick panels, carpeting, center console.

Parts included: Dvr and pass. mirrors, wiring harness, switches, bolts, cover plates (inside, May have outside(you shouldn't need them for your year))

I personally like these "turbo" mirrors the best on the 240.

BTW: I do have a wiring harness for a 240 heated power mirror set with relay and switches but no mirrors. I would sell this for $30 or trade.

The '84 244GL I used to have had those power mirrors. I understand they are hard to come by but I would hold out for a set of heated ones from a later ('86+) 240. The set I had mostly worked. The motors were noisy and the mirror housings were corroded badly under the paint. The regular manual mirrors (and the later power ones) look better and won't corrode.

Thumbs up to the other advice. You'll have to add all of the wiring, but since it's optional equipment it won't be bundled with the other wiring and is all plug-n-play. You can get as creative as you like with the switch locations. Mine were located on either side of the plastic cover over the steering column.

-Will
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854 - 244 - Mini

I think this mirror is off a later car. Perhaps a '85-'86 or newer. They were not power mirrors or at least not on my DL's.

The wire could be a heater but it doesn't need that many wires.

Most of these models used a lever on the inside that pull short cables to deflect the glass. So you will need some inside parts to work them.

There is considerable dirt under the glass. I wonder how high the water got. With all the flooding that has been going on. Where are the rest of the parts?

All the mirrors seem to mount into that triangled area with some change out of pieces designed for each mirror setup. Electric or manual windows? To the best of my knowledge have no play on fitting in there.

This wiring could be from a GL. So yes, you will need more than is shown.

The GL interiors are animals all their on. Electrically from year to year.

Phil

That's the correct power mirror for the early (pre 86) cars. GL's, Turbos, and GLEs tend to have these mirrors from around 78 or so to 85. It is power, but is not heated. I tried hard to find heating elements for it (hint, look at the mirrors on a BMW E24 6-series) but never came up with any, so I converted my 81 Turbo to heated mirrors from a 93 240.

You'll need a lot more than just the mirrors if you want to convert your car. A couple hours at the junkyard would be much easier than trying on ebay. Off the top of my head, I know you'll need:
Mirrors for both sides (they will fit existing holes in your doors, one large internal hex bolt holds them on). Remember to get the black triangular panel that covers the outside too, yours is different.
Interior trim pieces for the mirrors (black plastic trim on the inside of the door, where your current mirror control paddle thing is).
Mirror control stalks. These little joysticks control the mirror motors, mounted in the leading edge of the parking brake console, not in the doors.
Relays for the system. I think there are two, but its been years since I yanked mine out.
Wiring harness from mirrors to fusebox to relay in center console, to mirror control stalks in the leading edge of the parking brake console. Its a lot of wiring, and a lot of work to route it into a car that doesn't have it.


You may want a new parking brake console, but you can just drill a couple circular holes in the front of yours to mount the control stalks in the right location, or else mount them elsewhere (they tend to get grimy in the stock location).

Good luck. Its a pretty straightforward swap if you have all the parts and some time, but its certainly more complicated than just buying different mirrors and finding somewhere to plug them in. Feeding the wiring harness through the flexy connection between the door and the underdash is particularly fun, but fortunately these old style mirrors have a round plug that makes that easier.
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I recently did this conversion to my '82 245. In addition to what neptune242 said you also need to grind/file out some metal on the metal structure underneath the triangular sail shaped panels. The way I did this was I had both cars side by side and I took both sets of mirrors off. When you do this, you'll see what I'm talking about. What I did then was to take a piece of cardboard from a cereal box and cut it down so that I could fit it inside behind the hole on the '93 metal triangular shaped metal panel. Then I took a fine tipped sharpie marker and traced the odd shaped hole onto the cardboard. Then I trimmed out the marked out area of the cardboard with an exacto knife. After that I matched it up on the '82 and you'll see that some of the hole matches the older style. You'll be able to see what needs to be trimmed out. Then trace the rest of the hole onto the metal panel. Then, start filing and grinding. Once you get that ground out your mirrors should fit just like the '93. One of the holes I couldn't use the cardboard trick so what I ended up doing was I took a piece of aluminum tape (we called this "Speed Tape" when I used to work on airplanes) and I put it over the hole and I sort of pushed the tape into the hole and formed creases at the edges. Then I carefully removed the tape being carfull not to disturb the edge marks. Then I used the exacto knife again and trimmed the inside area out. Then I tape it right onto the '82 and trace with the sharpie what needs to be trimmed out again and you know what's next, GRIND and FILE some more. Then you install the mirrors. Next is to route the wiring harness and install the switch stalks. BTW, there's only one relay in this system. When you look at my car now you can't tell that it was not a factory installation. I hope you have the option of having the cars side-by-side like I did. I can't imagine doing it any other way. Sorry for the long post.Good Luck!

Just to clarify for the original poster, no cutting and grinding will be required to fit the older style power mirrors on his 84DL. The holes for those will already be there and its simply a matter of getting all the pieces, bolting them on, and adding the wiring and controls just like the donor car.

We're really dealing with three different animals for the power mirrors for a 240. All three have their own wiring harness, joystick control switches, and mirrors. Thankfully as said above the wiring harnesses are not integrated into the car's harness, you can just unplug it and swap the whole thing into your car with no splicing.
1. the old style BMWesque power mirrors that came on some GLs, GLEs,GLTs and Turbos. They mount with one large bolt from the inside, using a round metal plug in the existing large hole for the manual mirrors. The wiring feeds through a second smaller hole you might need to add. Easiest way to tell them at a glance is their smaller size and the point on the tip.
2. the 86-93 style power mirrors. Larger glass, larger housing, slightly more streamlined look that fits the car better. They mount with two machine screws from the inside of the car, and the holes in the door skin are different than the older style. All 86-93 cars should have the proper holes for these mirrors.
3. the 92-93 heated mirrors. They look the same as the 86-93 mirrors, but the glass has a heat element. Biggest tip-off is the heated mirror rocker switch inside the car. Mount as normal 86-93 power mirrors, but the entire system is different (more wires, different relays and controls and glass)

To add the new style 86-93 power mirrors (92-93 with heated glass) you will need to cut the door to mount the mirrors as mentioned, as well as get the entire system (wiring, power relay, joystick controls, heat timer relay, and mirrors). If you get the parts from various sources, remember that the heated mirrors do not just plug into the standard harness for the 86-93 power mirrors. The wiring harness is different for those with heat, plus the delay relay for the heat, plus the joystick controls for the mirrors are different for some reason.
Seeing as you're converting a car with manual windows right now, the only additional work to do to add the new style mirrors will be cutting the door and a couple extra wiring connections if you get the heated style mirrors. I'd go with whatever system you can get all the parts from most easily.

These are the old style mirrors (78?-85):


And the new ones (86-93):

Heated versions look the same externally as the rest of the 86-93 mirrors.

I grabbed my 93 heated mirrors from a junkyard, took a photo of the holes in the door, then came home and with a drill and a dremel made the holes in my doors. Lots and lots of test fitting, but it wasn't that hard.
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Sorry, You are correct. I was referring to the '93 style power/heated mirror setup as far as cutting and grinding goes as that's the extent of my experience as far as conversions go. It sounds like you've had a lot more experience with this.

Item is incomplete.It is missing the ireing harness from the mirror to the switch.Also missing toggle switch.I doubt these are heated and if they are you are missing another part.also you will need the piece that blocks off the hole in the door where your old mirror is.The switches for the mirrors were located in the brake console,need to drill holes.I have also seen them mounted to the blanks on the dash,next to the flasher.Since it is not a pair I would pass.