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No start 1990 740 wagon 700

As I have mentioned earlier my 1990 740 wagon won't start. This is what i have done so far without success. Removed the starter and had it tested-turned out the starter was good. Replaced the igniton switch still no start...not even a click. But the car will start if I connect a wire from batt. pos. and terminal 50.Is it posible that the NSS is bad? How do you troubleshoot a neutral safety switch? Thank you in advance for any suggestions and replies.


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    No start 1990 740 wagon 700

    Easiest way to troubleshoot a neutral safety switch is to bypass it.

    The switch is located in the tranny tunnel - pull the cover - it's the delta shaped device.

    Unplug the switch and jump the (usually) pink wire to the (usually) blue or blue green wire in the plug. Make sure the trans is in Park, then try the starter.

    There are a couple of things that can affect the NSS, the most obvious being that it can fail itself. However, a loose shifter that fails to fully engage the switching mechanism in the switch can simulate a switch failure.

    One other symptom of a failed or failing NSS is no reverse lights - the switch for those is in there, too, with a (usually) blue red wire bringing the power in and a (usually) black wire taking the power out of the switch and to the reverse lights.

    I just replaced one in my daughter's 89 740, took fifteen minutes. I think the part runs about fifty bucks.









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    No CRANK 1990 740 wagon 700

    Hi Mike,

    I have an undisclosed rat in the woodpile that suddenly delivers
    "no cranking". Then after shorting the two starter terminals with a large
    screwdriver the SOB appears fine for weeks or even months only to reoccur.

    The circuit for the Starter solenoid starts at the pos terminal of
    the battery. Check that the small wire is clamped on tight, as it has
    a tendancy to get loose. That wire joins two other red wires at a
    terminal (3 red wires) near the ECU. The two other red wires go to the ignition switch "pins 30"
    Then the ignition switch delivers pos volts via a pink wire to a connector at the interlock switch harness pin 4.
    The Blue/green from harness connector pin 3 goes on to connector E pin 1
    at the Left A post, then to Connector D pin 5 at the left suspension tower,
    Then the Blue/Green to the starter solenoid (Small wire)

    One problem in locating the gremlin is that the solenoid needs plenty of
    current in order to pull in. So a crappy connection somewhere may look fine
    with an ohmmeter, but not deliver enough amps to pull the solenoid.

    I've swapped out the interlock switch and fixed the pos terminal at the
    battery. It may be a bad connector D or E , I haven't been annoyed enough
    to tear into that since the SOB generally works and it only takes a second to
    jump the starter.
    It doesn't seem likely that the solenoid itself should be the culprit, but
    you can't rule out anything until the thing is fixed for sure.

    I hope this helps some, Bill

    PS: You really want to get the Volvo wiring diagram (Electrical Service-
    manual) for your car before Ford sees that it goes out of print.
    The 89 740 book is Volvo # TP 31383/1 You can order it online or
    get it at your Volvo dealer. It's worth it's weight in Gold, and there's
    no competition with Chiltons, Haynes, or whatever.








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      No CRANK 1990 740 wagon 700

      Bill,
      I had your type of problem on several different vehicles. The culprit turned out to be bad battery cables where the corrusion was down inside the insulation and not visible. It wasn't until I replaced the negative, and cut the sheathing open that I found it.
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        No CRANK 1990 740 wagon 700

        Hi Aleekat,

        Maybe the solenoid wire is messed up?
        I did over the battery terminal ends and when I short the
        starter lugs ZING!! it cranks like crazy. Battery cables gotta be OK.
        Must be a bad solenoid wire circuit, but why does it work fine after starting.
        Maybe I'll take another look at the solenoid wire and it's lug...
        see if somethings flakey there, cuz maybe when I short the lugs I move the
        spade lug of the solenoid wire? Grrrrrrr!
        Damn thing pretends it's OK for weeks and weeks!

        Bill








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          No CRANK 1990 740 wagon 700

          Don't want to hijack Mike's thread. But what you describe is exactly what just occurred in a non volvo car. Work great for weeks/month. Then turn the key, all lights no crank. But each time I could short the starter and turn it over. Notice the end of the neg cable at block didn't look good. 14yr old car. Replace the entire neg cable. Symptom has not returned. You mentioned you worked on the lugs. As I posted before. Then problem may not be in the ends, but further down under the insulation.
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            NO CRANK - Intermittant 700

            Hi again Aleekat,
            Maybe Mike is struggling with the same gremlin?

            What do you think happened to the negative wire inside that
            the solenoid didn't pull in, then after shorting, everything
            works for weeks even months? The starter cranks fine so the wires
            to the starter carry plenty of current. If the wire craps out
            then it might go open I'd think, maybe the trouble is at a ratty crimp
            terminal. Did you do an autopsy on the old neg lead?

            There's twin negative wires from the battery
            One bolts to the frame under the AC plumbing.
            The other bolts onto the crossmember under the engine
            between the motor mounts.

            Just where does the engine block connect electrically
            to the negative line? The block is mounted
            on motor mounts and there's some smaller ground lines
            involved with the Fuel system from the intake manifold to the body,
            (They don't look like they return the starter motor current.)
            Maybe I'm missing the obvious?

            Bill












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              NO CRANK - Intermittant 700

              I think boxvolvo gave a pretty good solution/diagnosis to Mike's problem. On my 85 740. The neg cable mounts to the block under the power steering pump.(that lug I found lose yrs ago and recrimped it.) Remember the starter is bolted to the block. As I said, probably from yrs of moisture, dirt, grit, etc. I cut back the insulation from the old cable and the insides were corroded.
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                NO CRANK - Intermittant 700

                Huh? My neg battery cables (2) go to the frame,passenger side under A/C pipes.
                and to the Crossmember under the engine.

                The starter grounds to the block, so where's the heavy neg wire from the block
                back to the battery?

                Bill








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                  NO CRANK - Intermittant 700

                  Like I posted. 1 to the frame, and the other under the power steering pump. Not to the crossmember. Here's how mine runs. Both the positive and negative go into a heat shield type tube and run down towards the crossmember. Near the power steering pump, the negative comes out and bolts there. The hot continues under the front of engine then back to the starter.
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                    NO CRANK - Intermittant 700

                    There's a ground connection to my crossmember another to the frame
                    Both maybe 10Ga wire. Not so husky compared to the pos wire to the starter.
                    Do the motor mounts insulate the block from the frame electrically?
                    Where is the Neg return path to the battery from the block?
                    Hey Walt, what's your phone nr? I'd like to yak on the phone.

                    Bill








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    No start 1990 740 wagon 700

    Go here and read first. The FAQ is often helpful.

    http://www.brickboard.com/FAQ/700-900/ElectricalStarting.htm

    It'd be good if there was more info such as, do warning lights come on, do headlights come on, things like that. The NSS does seem like a possible candidate though.







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