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Auxiliary Air Slide Part no 241853 not working and part N/A - How to fix?? 1800 1972

Hi, my -72 1800ES with B20E has since a long time had a non working Aux Air Slide, causing rough idle until engine has reached temperature, no problems thereafter. The part seems to be out of stock since several years, but I have come across reports of succesful fixes based on parts from more recent engines. Does anyone have a detailed description of a good fix for this problem, with part numbers and sources/references? I believe that lots of B20E's and F's are in the same situation.

Ola, Lier/Norway
-58 544 B16B
-72 1800ES B20E
-05 XC70 D5








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Auxiliary Air Slide Part no 241853 not working and part N/A - How to fix?? 1800 1972

The fix for your aux air slide that no longer works is to use the aux air slide from the K Jet head. It simply fits into place around the two short pieces of metal tubing in the intake manifold. Then one wire goes to ground and one wire goes to ignition. It works quite well. Of course dont forget to block off the connection to the old aux slide valve at the front of the head.
Jonathan








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Auxiliary Air Slide Part no 241853 not working and part N/A - How to fix?? 1800 1972

Hi there, I had a similar problem with my 70. Air slide was completely frozen shut. After missing out on a couple of used units on E-bay (that went for handsome sums) I decided to make my own. Not a difficult process. I started with a solenoid valve I bought on E-bay. You must get the right type, since you are basically porting "vacuum" (yes, I know, no arguments about porting what does not exist). The solenoid valve is mounted under the front of the plenum on the fender wall with a steel bracket. This is a normally closed valve. I bought a 3/8" valve. On one side I installed a nipple and a block style brass T. The short side of the T goes to the valve inlet. On one branch of the T I used a 1/2" SAE tap to create machine threads. Then I took a half inch bolt, about 1 1/2" long and ground a chamfer onto it's snout. When screwed into the threads, it can be adjusted down toward the opposite end of the T, creating a flow control valve. I have a half nut on the bolt as a lock. I bought two 3/8 pipe to 1/2 hose barbs. One is on the outlet side of the valve, the other is on the end of the brass T, opposite the adjuster screw. After threading it into the T, it forms the seat against which the beveled point of the machine screw will seat if it is screwed all the way in. The two hose barbs, ground down smooth, take my new hoses that attach to the plenum on either side of the throttle plate. The reason I chose to fabricate the flow control was to limit size. I could have bought all sorts of elegant valving off the shelf, but the solenoid valve is already a good sized piece. I didn't want to add any more bulk. This all fits neatly under the intake hose and can barely be seen. And it was fun to build too.

Next, I took my old AAV and cut off almost everything above the mounting flange. I know these can be taken apart and sometimes rebuilt, but I assure all purists, mine was beyond repair. To the flat surface I mounted an open-on-rise snap disc type switch from Allied Electronics. I tried several different switches before I got the right one. Not only is the temp range important, but the "slop" in the range is too. I'm fairly certain I ended up with OA-120-QC. Open on rise at 120F with quick connects (spade lugs). I drilled and tapped the face of the cut-off valve and attached this with machine screws. Make sure to remove the little shaft in the AAV that moves when heated. Otherwise, when it heats, now having been uncovered, it will jam itself against the snap switch and destroy it.

The solenoid valve is grounded to it's mounting bracket. The hot lead goes to the snap switch and then to an ignition hot source. With ignition on and engine cold, the snap switch sends power to the solenoid which opens, allowing air to bypass the throttle plate just as the AAV would. It took me a couple of tries with different temp range switches to get this right. Now, even if the ambient temp is 90, the cold engine closes the switch and thus opens the solenoid valve. I have my little flow control valve set so the engine idles perfectly at about 1100 RPM. I usually drive off before the valve closes, but by the time I reach the first stop sign, the valve has closed and the engine idles at base speed. I don't have pictures, and the car is not here at the house currently. But if there's anything I can help with and you'd like to give this a try, you can reach me at dpsam@sbcglobal.net
Best of luck,
DS








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Auxiliary Air Slide Part no 241853 not working and part N/A - How to fix?? 1800 1972

Hi - Very interesting and fascinating solution you choosed, I have decided to go for the somewhat simpler option to install a K-Jet electrically heated valve, but should this fail too I might be tempted to try your solution as it actually seems to work. Thx, Ola.








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Auxiliary Air Slide Part no 241853 not working and part N/A - How to fix?? 1800 1972

Hello,

We have converted 2 D-jet Volvos to use the later AAS from a K-jet Volvo.

We fabricated a plate to cover the hole in the head for the old AAS and fabricated a bracket to hold the later AAS in a position to mount the 2 hoses.

We wired the AAS electric heater to a relay.
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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502








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Auxiliary Air Slide Part no 241853 not working and part N/A - How to fix?? 1800 1972

Hi, after some searching I find available part no 460833 which seems to be the AAS from K-Jet Volvos. One question: This AAS is not heated by the cooling water such as the D-Jet version. Instead it has some kind of electric heated bimetal inside to govern the opening during heating up. You say that you just connected this to a relay, could you please give some further details? E.g what kind of relay, and how it all works. Thanks a lot in advance! Ola.








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Auxiliary Air Slide Part no 241853 not working and part N/A - How to fix?? 1800 1972

Hello,

You really do not have to use a relay, but the stock power supply for the heater element was provided through a relay.

You can use any simple inexpensive 4 or 5 connection relay.

We like to use the D+ terminal of the alternator to trigger the relay.
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Eric
Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
Torrance, CA 90502








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Auxiliary Air Slide Part no 241853 not working and part N/A - How to fix?? 1800 1972

Hi and thanks for this info, I have searched in vain to find part numbers for this K-Jet part, do you happen to know which engines it was used for and also the part number, assuming that it's still available? Rgds, Ola.








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Auxiliary Air Slide Part no 241853 not working and part N/A - How to fix?? 1800 1972

Howdy,

Go to this web page:

http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/djetparts.htm

Scroll about one-half way down the page to the section on the Auxiliary Air Regulator and read the Rebuild and Rejuvination section.

Once you start exploring that man's web site you may end up spending hours reading. Very good stuff.

*edit*
From VClassics:

There's nothing electrical about the Aux Air Valve on a Volvo D-Jet (unlike on air-cooled Porsches). Test it by unhooking the connecting hose from the intake manifold and drawing air through it. With a cold motor, air should flow through readily; when warm, it should be much harder (it's OK if you can get a little bit through).

I did not know that. My D-jet car was a 1970 914 1.7L.

If all else fails you could make a cable operated bypass valve.
*/edit*
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Mr. Shannon DeWolfe -- I've taken to using mister because my name misleads folks on the WWW. I am a 53 year old fat man. ;-)








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Auxiliary Air Slide Part no 241853 not working and part N/A - How to fix?? 1800 1972

Thanks a lot, I know what I'm gonna read for the next couple of weekends. However, the page describes an AAV with an electrical heated bimetal strip. The one of my engine relies on a wax filled compartment that no longer functions due to age. It is supposed to work much like an ordinary thermostat for the cooling water. However, as Planetman suggests, an upgrade is possible but I need some more clues to find a suitable replacement part. Rgds, Ola







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