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Mystery codes....need assistance in diagnosis of SRS light problem 200

1993 Volvo 240. SRS light is on all the time. Read FAQ about codes. Opened the OBD 1 box, inserted probe into terminal 5. No blinking LED. Looked into the 6 terminals and discovered that only 2 and 6 have receptacles for the probe. The others are open all the way through. It appears that only 2 and 6 are wired for diagnosing something. So, I put probe into terminal 6 and got a 2-2-4 code. Put it into 2 and got a 1-2-1 code. Based on this information, does it appear that my OBD1 is not complete, i.e. it doesn't have a mini-receptable in each of the 6 terminal holes? And, what do the codes mean for terminals 2 and 6? Any insight as to what I have here is much appreciated! Daryl








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    Mystery codes....need assistance in diagnosis of SRS light problem 200

    To provide a bit of insight. The alternator/battery in the car charge a capacitor in the SRS system, which stores power to operate the airbag for probably no more than 10-20 seconds. This is so that in an accident, the airbag will work even if the battery and alternator are inoperable ie the airbag system will have its own power. This is only needed for a short period of time since the time frame of a crash is at most a second or so.
    Once the battery is disconnected, the capacitor discharges slowly. Not sure if that is from its own internal resistance, or the system has a bleed resistor.








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    Mystery codes....need assistance in diagnosis of SRS light problem 200

    Persistence pays off....finally was able to get a fault code. It was a -1- indicating a faulty crash sensor or connections. After disconnecting the battery negative cable, I checked the connections. All seems well with them, but the SRS remains on. So....now to find a good used crash sensor. Anyone have a good one to spare that will work on a 93 240? Daryl








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      Mystery codes....need assistance in diagnosis of SRS light problem 200

      Daryl,

      WOW! That baby is expensive. Just over 1k at Tasca new. This definitely warrants a bone yard search. If you don't have any luck locally try "Volvo & Saab Auto Dismantlers. Their in Sacramento Ca. but they will ship. (916) 635-9970, www.vandsautodismantlers.com.

      RonJ

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      Part number 3515521








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    Mystery codes....need assistance in diagnosis of SRS light problem 200

    No progress yet. I tried exactly as recommended in the FAQ: 1. Turned on ignition switch to position II for 15+ seconds. 2. Jumper wired SRS terminal behind SRS blank in center dash switch panel to lighter ground ring for 2 seconds 3. Waited for code to register on SRS light in main instrument light display, but nothing. When jumper was disconnected, the SRS light returned and stayed on steady without interruption. 4. Tried to reset 3 times by shorting to ground for 1/4 second 3X over 3 seconds. 5. Everything is unchanged. Light still on.

    Are we ready for the battery 1/2 hour disconnect....or what should I try next?

    Daryl








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    Mystery codes....need assistance in diagnosis of SRS light problem 200

    I had a symptom in which the SRS light was on for about 30 seconds after start and then would go off.

    Shortly after that began, I noticed all the dash lights had an extreamly low glow with a slight flicker. I noticed this miles away from the city very late at night with cluster lights low. Turned the cluster lights up full and could not see any glow they were that dim.

    Checked battery charging rate which was at low end of range. Replaced alternator regulator because of short brushes and the SRS on for a short period of time also went away.

    I'm not sure, but since the SRS system needs a constant charge to keep the firing charge full**, if the battery is not charging properly or the battery is weak using all the charge put out by the alternator, the SRS would probably indicate a problem. At least that's what I dervied. The Service Techs at the local dealer wouldn't/couldn't confirm if deduction was correct.

    ** supposedly waiting 30 seconds after disconnecting the battery will prevent?? the bag from exploding to me indicates a circuit that bleeds off its charge.

    And since the circuit needs a ground, that ground should also be checked from a safe location which is not near the bag deployment area. It may be prudent to wait longer than the 30 seconds to check the ground since the system probably bleeds off through that ground.

    Duane








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    Mystery codes....need assistance in diagnosis of SRS light problem 200

    SRS test port on 240 is not linked to engine bay OBD. it's on the center console next to window defroster/emergency light/AC switches. you have to pry off a cover piece to see the connector.








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      Mystery codes....need assistance in diagnosis of SRS light problem 200

      Okay.....this helps. I pulled the SRS cover out of the panel. The cover is clipped to a terminal on the backside. Unclipped the cover from the terminal and I see a mini-receptacle on top, and a blank hole underneath. Is my next step to put a jumper wire between the mini-receptacle and the ground ring surrounding the cigarette lighter? Rather, turn on ignition switch to position II for 15 seconds, then ground out the SRS light in the main panel to the lighter ring using the jumper wire for a few seconds, then wait for the SRS light in the main panel to start flashing a code? From the 700/900 FAQ:

      "[Jeffrey Davis] Use an 18 - 22 gauge solid wire with 1/4 to 1/2 inch of insulation stripped from the ends. Insert the end of the jumper you made into the test point opening so it is gripped by the clip inside. Arrange the wire so you can touch the other end of it to the grounded metal ring of the cigarette lighter. Turn the ignition on so the dash warning lights are on and wait 15 seconds. Ground the test terminal for 2 full seconds. The SRS light will flash immediately when the connection is first broken. This is not a fault code. The light will then flash one to ten times for the code (see table below). The light will then come back on. Without turning the key off, clear the fault codes. Ground the test terminal three times for at least 0.25 seconds each time all within a period of 1.5 to 5 seconds. It will probably take several tries to get the rhythm. The lamp will go out for 4 seconds, re-light for 3 seconds, and then go out. If the light does not stay out, then there is still a fault present and you will need to go further in to it."

      If I'm still missing a step, or making an incorrect one, please let me know. Or, if I'm on the right track, let me know that, too, please. Thanks again for your suggestions. Daryl







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