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posted by  Suppo176 on  Thu Mar 26 13:36 CST 2009
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Prior to embarking on an ala carte engine rebuild project, I would like to find out if there are B18/B20 "Crate Engines" available from professional rebuilders.

According to my calculations, by the time I get through purchasing the necessary components/kits for the engine and cam, I will have over $1000 in parts and probably another $500 in machine shop work ahead of me.

Would like to save cash and time if a source is available for a complete long block.








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    posted by  walrus3 on  Fri Mar 27 01:53 CST 2009
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    There was a really nice engine on ebay a while back.
    Read the ads in Rolling, various Volvo websites' classifieds, etc
    and you may find something.
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    George Downs, Bartlesville, Heart of the USA!








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      posted by  sdewolfe on  Fri Mar 27 05:35 CST 2009
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      Howdy Phil,

      There is a guy selling a B20 on ebay right now. His buy it now price is a bit steep. But, he has already done all the work, right? I don't think you will find a rebuilt engine for much less than that. But, the description says he does build to order. ebay item number: 300299173605

      John Parker on the right side of the map. I think some of the IPD guys build engines over on the left coast. If anyone in your neck of the woods builds Volvo push rod engines for resale I haven't heard about it.

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      Mr. Shannon DeWolfe -- I've taken to using mister because my name misleads folks on the WWW. I am a 53 year old fat man. ;-)








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        posted by  Suppo176 on  Fri Mar 27 06:20 CST 2009
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        I saw the eBay item and agree that the price is indeed "Steep". I am advised that in days long since past, Volvo sold a B20 crate engine through their dealers for $750.00.

        I have a spare B18 and by now I am resigned to the fact that I might as well order the parts from IPD and do it myself with the help of the Corvette nut down the street and his favorite machine shop which is 15 miles away.







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          posted by  sdewolfe on  Fri Mar 27 08:56 CST 2009
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          Yep. Mine cost $1800. Maybe I'm a tightwad but I think that is a lot of money to refresh a daily driver. I have been quite happy with it though. No oil consumption and still strong at about 35K miles after the fact.

          I went with a new C grind cam and have been wondering whether I should have installed a D grind. It would be nice to have just a bit more power. But I am not complaining about the fuel consumption with the C grind. ;-)
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          Mr. Shannon DeWolfe -- I've taken to using mister because my name misleads folks on the WWW. I am a 53 year old fat man. ;-)








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            posted by  planetman on  Fri Mar 27 13:52 CST 2009
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            Hello,

            I saw the rebuilt engine ad on ebay.

            I know John and he can build a decent engine.

            He is asking the same price that I charge my customers for a thorough rebuilt engine.

            Although I like to use steel gears instead of fiber and I still use 1 piece cast lifters so you can still use the stock pushrods, unless I am building a performance motor.

            I am not sure if everyone is using as many new "quality" parts and are having all of the same machining operations performed, so a proper comparison must take this into condsideration.

            Plus, what is the value of an experienced mechanic who can say he/she specializes in your motor?

            I feel that if you buy all the same parts that are listed in the ebay engine ad and add the cost for all the machining that you will approach $2400.00 for parts, machining and balancing labor.

            BTW, I charge 8 hours to build a motor and that costs $576.00 and I spend way more than 8 hours cleaning, preparing, measuring, clearancing, painting, wire wheeling fasteners and assembling a motor.
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            Eric
            Hi Performance Automotive Service (formerly OVO or Old Volvos Only)
            Torrance, CA 90502








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              posted by  sdewolfe on  Fri Mar 27 23:23 CST 2009
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              BTW, I charge 8 hours to build a motor and that costs $576.00 and I spend way more than 8 hours cleaning, preparing, measuring, clearancing, painting, wire wheeling fasteners and assembling a motor.

              You are certainly more than fair on your labor, Eric.

              You should get a high school kid as an apprentice to do all that cleaning for you. ;-)

              It would free you to do other things and the kid gets experience. Show him how to use the tools, what not to do, and let him have his head. If you let him use the shop after closing he will work for gas money; that is how I spent my teen years.

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              Mr. Shannon DeWolfe -- I've taken to using mister because my name misleads folks on the WWW. I am a 53 year old fat man. ;-)







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