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A trick with elastic bands and throttle shafts 120-130

Knowing that the throttle shafts on my HS6's were a bit sloppy and having trouble getting the mixture right, particularly on the rear carb (20 flats vs. 12 on the front), I tore them off thinking I might rebush them myself. (Rhys did my son's HIF6's and they are divine but my better half thinks food is more important than carb rebuilds. Go figure).
When I got them apart, it occurred to me that a temporary fix might be in order, something to get me through the summer. So I took 2 small elastic bands, each about 1" in diameter and wound one twice around each throttle shaft just behind the actuator yoke, the thing Volvo calls "lever on throttle flap spindle".
I then reinstalled the carbs and did a rough tune. I was surprised to find that I had much better tunability and had good balance and mixture with 12 - 13 flats on both carbs. I went for a spin and the car ran well and idled well, although the presence of the elastics kind of overpowered the throttle return springs and it took a minute or so for the idle to fall below 1000 rpm at a stoplight.
I share this experience strictly as a diagnostic tool. I certainly wouldn't recommend it as even a medium term solution to worn shafts/bushings. I figure based on the way the elastics deform under throttle, and with the under-hood heat, they might last a week.

Cheers,
--
Barry -- 1967 122S 'Betty'








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    I hear you on the cost of things. I'd love to ship all three of my HS6s off to Rhys for rebushing and a full professional rebuild, but I can't afford the cost of one right now. I tried the rebushing technique as described by the Chicago MG club site and had mixed results.

    Instead of rubber bands, I used some 5/16" ID nylon plastic washers to accomplish the same task. Got them at the local hardware store for a few cents each. They work well enough, but they do bind the throttle a bit at first. eventually they wear in and things settle down nicely. Soft copper washers are another option if you have the clearance.

    I used a set of stacked O-rings and a copper washer in my HIF6 carbs. That works okay.

    Regarding the need for bushings. Have you tried the simple worn bushing/worn shaft trick? I read about it in one of the british car supplier catalogs. You remove the butterfly plate and throttle lever and such then you withdraw the throttle shaft only slightly - just enough to get past the worn out spots. Then you check for play. If there is none, you just need shafts. if you still have play you need bushings (any maybe shafts too)

    The best price I've found for HS6 throttle shafts is from "Victoria British" for $15.00 each (same shafts as for a Triumph TR4a).








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      Good suggestions, RJ. The elastic has the modest advantage of not having to take the lever off. If you have the shaft out however, then teflon spacers or the like would likely be preferable.

      Cheers,
      --
      Barry -- 1967 122S 'Betty'








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    A trick with elastic bands and throttle shafts 120-130

    I wonder if a glob of high temperature bearing grease or something might work similarly, but without added friction issues you encountered. Just a thought... I never tried it myself.

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    -Matt I ♥ my ♂








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      A trick with elastic bands and throttle shafts 120-130

      Yeh, high temp grease would probably work for sealing the shaft. However one of the things about the elastic is it tends to keep the shaft from bouncing up and down, which the grease wouldn't do, plus it's adaptive, conforming to the size of the gap between the lever and the carb body.

      Cheers,
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      Barry -- 1967 122S 'Betty'








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      A trick with elastic bands and throttle shafts 120-130

      Way back I can remember reading about bushes with O rings in. You might be able to fake this in a similar way to the elastic bands but as you say "for testing only". There is a type of grease for high vacuum applications and that's likely to help for rather longer than ordinary grease.Expensive at about $20 a small tube but you might know someone who works in a lab somewhere.







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