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Engine dead 700 1989

Last Saturday I went to start The Breadbox and it died right after start up. I restarted and the same thing happened. I started the third time and revved the engine to keep it running (it seemed to run fine) but when it went back to idle it died again. When I tried to restart it again, I got nothing. The engine didn't even shake. I had it towed home. I checked the timing belt and it's in one piece and not even worn - the camshaft turns. I checked the coil with a spare that I know is good and had no luck. Took off the distributor cap and cranked it. Doesn't look like the rotor turned. Tried three times and rotor position was the same after each time. The way my luck has been running the rotor was probably turning and it's just a huge coincidence that it stopped in exactly the same place each time. I'm getting a distributor this weekend. Anything else I should be looking at if that's not the problem? By the way, the driver's side door latch broke when I tried to get back into it at home. Sometimes I think it just doesn't want me driving it.








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    Engine dead 700 1989

    Finally everything's up and running again so I should be able to make it to Ikea in Philly this Sunday. Fianl problem was that I am dyslexic (see spelling of "final" - that's how I typed it)and had the spark plug wires run backward from the distributor since I had unhooked them to check the rotor and couldn't figure out which way the engine turned.








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    Engine dead 700 1989

    After a weekend of diagnostics I have found the problem. Yet another weird bolt coming loose. The bolt that goes into the end of the crankshaft has come loose and caused the lower timing belt sprocket to stop turning under load - that's why the valvetrain turned when I cranked the starter. Now all I have to do is get the bottom half of the engine in time with the top half. I've done a timing belt replacement so I already know how to find TDC on the top and bottom and get them to align. By the way, the door handle problem is exactly the same one I had with the driver's rear door last year. The pull handle broke where it goes into the main handle body. I got a new one at the junkyard and I'll put it on as soon as I can get it to run again.








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      Engine dead 700 1989

      After another weekend I nearly have it running again. I finally tracked the problem to the lower timing belt sprocket that turns with the crank. The pin that holds it to the crank shaft and doesn't let it spin freely sheared off and stopped the timing belt from turning. It's now fixed and all I have to do is find TDC on the crankshaft and time the rest of the motor to it.








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      Engine dead 700 1989

      "The bolt that goes into the end of the crankshaft has come loose and caused the lower timing belt sprocket to stop turning under load - that's why the valvetrain turned when I cranked the starter."

      That doesn't sound quite right to me. If the lower (crank) sprocket stops turning, there is no drive to the belt. So how could the "valvetrain" (camshaft) turn when cranking?

      More importantly, that crank pulley bolt doesn't just "come loose" unless it wasn't tightened properly (44 ft lbs, then an additional 60° of angle tightening).*

      I see by your post below that you'll be replacing the pulley, in which case I strongly suggest you use the ROPE TRICK as a counterhold when you tighten the pulley bolt this time.

      * When I angle-tighten tighten that bolt to spec, I have to use a pipe extension on my 18" breaker bar, and pull with both arms while braced against the left fender.

      Here's wishing you a speedy recovery from your injuries.








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      Engine dead 700 1989

      After taking the crank pulley off I've found another problem. The key that's supposed to hold everything in place in relation to one another is gone. I think I'm to blame for this. It may have happened years ago when I replaced the timing belt. I've also tracked down what I thought was a belt squeal to the rubber inside the crank pulley. I can turn the belts and the outside of the pulley without turning the inner pulley at all. So hopefully this weekend, I'll get a new pulley and key if I'm up to it. I was robbed and beaten in front of my house Tuesday night, and with a fractured cheekbone, it hurts to bend down. At least my vision's cleared up mostly.








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    Engine dead 700 1989

    The not running at idle is exactly what my 740t did when I was a youngun and not driving. It happened one morning (trying to catch a train out of town) and it turned out that the timing belt partially failed, then completely failed while driving down the road at 60.
    It seemed like some "teeth" wore down and slipped a few notches before it broke.
    Can you check the timing with a timing light? I hear they're fairly easy to "make" yourself. Or about 30 dollars.

    If you put up the hood all the way, can you see around it to watch the dizzy crank? Know what I mean-- all the way vertical - there are some little stops that rotate and allow the hood to go perpendicular to the ground for removing the engine or working on things in the back of the engine.

    Good luck, Post back,
    Will
    --
    1990 740 Turbo, on its way to stock specs, maybe beyond








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    Engine dead 700 1989

    Check for 12 volts on the injector plugs when the ignition is on. Maybe the relay is bad. One pin is zero to ground and the other should have 12 volts.








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    Engine dead 700 1989

    The timing belt can fail and still look just fine. Get a friend to look into the oil filler hole and watch the camshaft. If it turns, the belt is OK.

    The distributor could, I suppose, fail to turn even if its drive gear turns. For that, the dizzy shaft would have to have lost its connection to its drive gear. That happened once in my memory, and it was a Ford V-8, not a Volvo. In that case the roll pin holding the drive gear to the shaft had rusted out.

    When the key is turned to Start, the computer (ECU) allows the two fuel pumps to run 5 or 6 seconds. If the ECU has not received a signal that spark is present, the fuel pumps are cut off.

    The 5-6 second pump run can be checked by having a friend listen (1) at the gas filler tube, cap off, and (2) next at the gap between the LR wheel and the fender at the 1:00 0'clock position. He should hear the (1) in-tank pump run, and (2) the main pump run.

    If you have pumps running, next check for spark. Your car has the Crank Position Sender, it is located atop the bell housing at the back of the engine. It is a known offender. Look down in there with a flashlight for rotted insulation and other signs of failure. Such failure can make for no spark = no fuel = no start.

    Try this stuff and post back.

    Good Luck,

    Bob

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      Engine dead 700 1989

      I took the top of the timing belt cover off and it's fine - I did the oil filler trick in the parking lot when it first didn't start. I can hear the fuel pumps kick on when I turn on the key (and yes the antenna is turned off - very similar sound when operating). As for the crank sensor, it's also the drive for the tach, so if it's bad, the tach is dead as well. The tach registers the engine cranking so I know it's okay. Also something I checked. I just replaced the fuel pump relay so I know what happens when that fails and this ain't it. I'll give the pumps a more thorough check though, that's the only place that there could be a problem, but it still doesn't explain the distributor not turning when the camshaft does.








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        Distributor not turning? 700 1989

        There can be a broken roll pin or taper pin in the distributor drive gear.
        Then the gear can turn but the shaft/rotor might not.
        if you think it isn't turning take the cover off and watch it while cranking.







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