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On 10-27-07 at 11p.m. i left a Halloween Party with my girlfriend in my 1987 Volvo 240 DL 5 speed - being in a country po-dunk town where street lights are a luxury i missed my turn to get back to the highway - i proceeded further to what appeared to be a ramp for the highway - after speeding up to 70mph i realized too late that is was not a entrance ramp but an access road for an apartment complex. i over corrected my error while in a 90 degree curve and forced this car into a 3x rollover into a field... we survived! I ended up with a displaced shoulder (seat belt on), 2 broken ribs and a concusion in the Trauma ICU for 12 hours - she had a few soft tissue lacerations (now she is being told of a minor fracture) the car did JUST what Volvo engineered it to do - all 4 doors opened with ease, the roof convexed, and the fenders flatened out, back window popped out - engine and transmission entact, steering wheel didn't pop off, though... and we were both at work the following Monday.
I found a '92 240 GL with working odometer on a car lot that very same day (monday) and i just got the check to pay for it from insurance AND insurance is dropping my older rolled-over car in my driveway so i can remove all the newer parts off - the only REAL total loss is that the HillBilly wrecker guys stole my $300 bag of tools i kept in the trunk - they said that it fell out during the rollover - ok, all wise Bubba, then explain to me why there is not a scratch on this trunk lid and everything else BUT the tools are still in the trunk AND if you don't take things from cars then why are there so many non-car related items in you garage and that DVD player laying on the floor... oh well - can't win them all - hopefully i can transfer my M47 tranny into this newer car easily - anyone done that?
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Do yourself a favor: if you swap out the trannie, also swap out the differential. It will make the car more drivable especially outside of the Bonneville Salt Flats. From the Voice of Experience.
Rich
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I think you have it backwards---the replacement car is the automatic, which has a shorter (3.73) rear axle ratio than the M47s do (3.31) If the automatic is replaced with a stick, without changing the rear end, the car will have strong acceleration, be noisy at highway speeds, and get poor gas mileage.
Your description is correct, if you put an automatic in a stick shift car.
Note to Punk240: While I am quite prepared to believe the rednecks stole your tool kit, there is another possibility. In a rollover, things in the vehicle tumble around quite a bit, but overall, loose objects tend to move forward. (especially heavy ones) If the tool roll was not that big, it may have slipped all the way up inside the quarter panel, above and forward of the wheel arch. This cavity extends all the way to the door jamb, and is easily overlooked. I once lost a trunk prop rod (over 18" long) in there when I pushed it a little too far. This was on a 142, in which the cavity is quite a bit bigger, but it might be worth your while to check up in there when you get the car back.
I've done the automatic-to-stick conversion on my present 740, and a 75 240, many years ago, so I can probably help with any questions you may have.
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Thanks for the correction. It has been so long since I converted an auto into a stick that I forgot one very important detail: I made a 240 stick out of one of those wretched 260 automatics. Whatever it was, the final drive in the 260 was well taller than the 240's.
I guess the real lesson here is to verify whatever you see on the internet.
Rich
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First off, glad to hear you are okay.
Secondly, with a donor car this will be an easy swap for you. As mentioned you need the hole for the CPS and a new flywheel (with holes, careful there are two types with holes, don't remember what one is for which). Those will be the only things you will need from say a junkyard. I have heard of people cutting their own holes for the CPS, try looking that up. Everything else like pedals clutch cable (hydraulic on 240 in 87'? not sure) ect can be swapped directly. Volvo made cut-outs in the firewalls of the automatics so pedal assembly and cable are a bolt on. Up to you whether you want to get a new clutch, pilot bearing, ect. Crossmember and tranny mount are a bolt on. You will also need the driveshaft for the M47, and if you really feel like doing a swap use the rear end as well due to gear ratios.
One other thing i would recommend is replacing the rear main seal while the tranny is off, because that is only time you can access it and they often fail from older age.
I believe this is right, i have only helped swap M-46's on early 80's 240's. Besides the CPS i think everything will be the same. If you can keep the donor car around while swapping. With two guys, you can complete it in about 2 full days.
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Tim:
A couple of questions:
1: Were the Girlfriend's soft tissue injuries on her dominant hand... perhaps from punching you... ergo broken ribs??? Just kidding, I'm happy to hear that the both of you are well on the road to recovery!
2: Did the Doctor mention if the meniscus and tendons in your shoulder are okay? If yes, great! If not, expect issues 20 years down the road... just a heads up!
3: What lesson(s) did you learn from this potentially life altering event?
4: If the 92 240GL has an automatic, conversion to a M47 is a pain, if it is a manual, it already has an M47 and a swap should be pretty easy. If it is an auto that you are converting, I've got a set of M47 pedals from a 92 245 that need a new home (they are currently in the haul-away pile) if that gives you a clue to the price!
5: Finally, more tongue in cheek, when you woke up and your Girlfriend was standing next to your bed, was she holding a pillow in her hands, kinda like she wanted to smother you?
I'm pretty sure you can figure out what questions/comments I was serious about, I'm sure folks on the BB would love to have the answers, especially the "lessons learned with 20/20 hindsight", this info could be very valuable and drive the point of safety home to brand new drivers... lord knows I skimped on safety in my first few rides!
Once again, I am incredibly pleased that you two are mending well, cars can be repaired or replaced, but like the old late 80's Volvo ads that had images of X-rayed human bones in the background "Replacement Parts are hard to find." Wow, a 20 year old ad is still relevant today!
Glad you are still amongst the living!
jorrell
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92 245 250K miles, IPD'd to the hilt, 06 XC70, 00 Eclipse custom Turbo setup...currently taking names and kicking reputations!
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Cute insight there - if the doctor said anything with regard to my shoulder i more than likely missed it since i was struggling to gain my speech... other than that i've discussed this tranny swap with fellow bricksters here in Dallas and they say it CAN be done - but like you said - it's for the small handed (PITA) and gotta have the correct bell housing with "window"
I've learned to make U-Turns more frequently and STAY away from country towns that were ignored by interstate progress - their roads are always screwy when it comes to merging them.
As it turn out I'll have a few parts in my own little pile from this 87 240... but the engine will be reserved for a project since i was still getting 110psi on comp. tests...
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About your shoulder:
Do your rehab exercises! When I was 21 I dislocated my shoulder in a Mosh pit at a GWAR show. 15 years later I finally got surgery on it because it had dislocated about 18 times since then! Swimming, snowboarding, doing crunches, it even popped out once when I sneezed. I learned to put it back in myself or with a friend, but it ain't like Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon. It sucks. Worst pain in the world, as I'm sure you know. Get well!
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'92 245, Black & Tan, Virgo Mags, 130K
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I believe it would be possible to grind out the bell housing on the 87 bell housing to clear the CPS, I have heard of a few folks doing the same thing here on the BB. It's just a clearance issue, not a mounting issue.
jorrell
ps. Consider on submitting your accident with details and pics to Volvo USA, they may add you to the "Volvo saved my life club", no perks, but it is another testimonial to the safety of our bricks. And yes, my Wife is a member as well, but had a six month recovery... just enough time for me to restore a 90 244 for her.
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92 245 250K miles, IPD'd to the hilt, 06 XC70, 00 Eclipse custom Turbo setup...currently taking names and kicking reputations!
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You don't need to grind it out. Almost every m46 and m47 I have seen has a breakout for the CPS. A hammer will bust it out in seconds. I have an 83 m46 on my 93 wagon and it had a breakout.
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Jessie:
That's great info to know! Excellent info!
jorrell
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92 245 250K miles, IPD'd to the hilt, 06 XC70, 00 Eclipse custom Turbo setup...currently taking names and kicking reputations!
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You will need, however, an LH 2.4 flywheel with the 60-2 hole pattern drilled into the edge. Can't use the one from the donor car.
And make it easy on yourself, when you take the flex plate off the engine, note where the missing holes in the pattern are pointing so you can just slap the flywheel on in the samre orientation, instead of spending a few hours poring over the Bentley manual (which, despite the Bentley manual's generally impeccable standards, frightningly vague about the flywheel orientation issue) and googling the internet before crossing fingers and bolting it all back together. In my case it started, but if you got it off, it's a lot of work to get back in there to fix it.
A time saver when adding a clutch pedal to an automatic car - leave the automatic pedal box in place. On a late model car with the knee bolsters, cruise control, etc. it's a significan't amount of work to remove it completely. Just leave it there, and then carve the donor manual pedal box in half and install just the clutch pedal half. The existing half of the auto pedal box has all the holes needed for the pedal to mount to it, and the clutch half of the manual box is very securely bolted in when it's all together. Then there's the task of drilling a hole for the cable in the firewall - look for the 'hump' and drill it there. There's not much room for a drill however, either from the engine side of the footwell side.
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'63 PV544 rat rod, '93 Classic #1141 245 +t
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Glad you got back on your feet.
Do you think that the head lights failed you and could have warned you a little earlier.
Regards
Gopesh
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a while back i ran over a 2x4 in the road as the car in front of me swerved - it broke a post on the drive headlight - i rigged it the best i could and i think it was cuz the headlight wasn't facing far up - i tried to counter act that by using the passenger light up high... oh well
i'm alive
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the real question here is....is she still your girlfriend?
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yeah - i wondered that myself while lying in the gurney with tubes n stuff attached to me - but when i woke up she was there waiting on me - so yeah - she's STILL mygirlfriend - maybe one of the FEW women that have a new respect for Volvo's - LMAO
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70mph on an unfamilair back road without streetlights, in a 20 year old volvo 240?
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Glad you're all right!
If swapping an M47 into an '89 or later you need to take care of having a crank position sensor. Sensor reads off the flywheel; I'm not sure if the standard tranny uses a different flywheel from the auto trans.
You can see from the above that I only halfway know what I'm talking about, from a couple discussions with other folks. Hopefully others will post on this.
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Sven: '89 245 NA, 951 ECU, expanded air dam to 7' from ground, forward belly pan reaches oem belly pan, open-front airbox, E-fan, 205/65-15's at 44 psi, IPD sways, E-Codes, amber front corner reflectors, quad horns, tach, small clock. Wifemobile '89 245
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Oh bummer...a perfectly good car meets its faith prematurely. But glad to hear you are fine. Any photos of the car that saved your lives?
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