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Wierd temp gauge thing. 200

82 245 gl 157,000 miles k-jet no AMM. Ok drove the car from work down to my local papa murpheys pizza place, the temp gauge stayed in its normal place just like usual. I went in and was out of the car for about 10 minutes, I got my pizza and came out and was on the phone so I just turned the key to the on position and finished my phone conversation when I looked at my dash the temp gauge was at about 3/4 of the way up the gauge (Note the car was not started). When I started the car the gauge came back down below the middle where it usually sits. What caused this I have never noticed this before but I never really sit there for to long with my key in the on position either. Is this just a sign that the gauge is working?








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    Wierd temp gauge thing. 200

    Nothing to worry about. that's called "heat soak". when you turn the car off, the water pump stops pumping (duh) so things can heat up a little.








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      Wierd temp gauge thing. 200

      Yeah figured it was nothing but given the way this car likes to mess with me I had to ask, Thanks for the reply.








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        Wierd temp gauge thing. 200

        What if this sort of thing happens when the car in in heavy traffic; stop and go traffic? The gauge on my 244 jumps to 3/4 and beyond. The only way I can allevite this is by turning the heater on full hot sometimes with the blower fan at full blast. Then the temp gauge goes back down PAST the 1/2 and the gauge then mimics a cold engine condition. This will happen allover again if during heavy traffic the temp control is back on full cold. Keep in mind I live in miami where this sort of thing is really annoying. Who wants full on heat blowing out' the vents when it feels like 95* F outside?!?! Needless to say I don't dare use the a/c in town. On the highway there are no problems using the a/c and driving agressively I guess owing to the air wooshing through the radiator. I suppose what I am accomplishing is merely opening the heater valve for its added heat dissipitation, but what is the cause of this overheating? BTW it's an 82 so no compensation board woes.








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          Wierd temp gauge thing. 200

          When the temp gauge drops after opening the heater valve to full hot, it's a sure sign that the "unadorned" heat removal system has become inadequate.

          In an older car, even for a brick, the tubes in the radiator can get plugged with accumulated scale or other yukky stuff. Usually the bottom tubes first.

          If you have a metal end-tank radiator, a good radiator shop can probably clean it and make it close to new. Allow them a week or so. Find a "loaner" if you need that car anyway.

          They will remove the end tanks and submerge the radiator in bath of awful stuff that will clean out the tubes. The might need to rod uot the tubes. Then they replace the tanks and pressure test it. If any tubes have holes they can solder them up. If not very many are closed thusly, you won't know the difference.

          When done, they will paint it black and sell it back o you. Worth every penny.

          Problem may be that good shops are not easy to find, since plastic seems to rule these days. Maybe some plastic tanks can be removed and replaced, I dunno.

          Last time I had this done, I told the shop owner I wss switching to coolant of 1/2 antifreeze (green) and 1/2 distilled water. He said do not tell people, it would cost him a lot of business. LOL

          Good Luck with yours. Houston has similar dependencies on cooling and a/c.

          Regards,

          Bob

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          Try taking your water hose and nozzle and blasting water through the radiator from the engine side toward the front grill. I used to have this problem here in NC in the summer, especially in traffic. I do this once a year or so to blast out the road grime that accumulates in the rad. It really helps get fresh air through your radiator and now it only heats up on the hottest of days in stopped traffic, but never all the way up like it used to. Worth a shot








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            Wierd temp gauge thing. 200

            One more thing to try and it can help clean both the radiator and the AC coils out front. Pull the radiator to clean it since it is covered up by the AC Coils (if you have them). But much better than just shooting some water up in there.

            Mix up some cleaning solution for cleaning your home AC coils. Do not use a too strong mix, 5 to 1 is what the bottle I have recommends for a mild solution. So that is about as strong as you want to get it, use 6 to 1 for cars just to be safe. This is a very agressive acid and stronger is not better. Drip a small single drop on the concrete and watch what happens and you will see why you have to be careful and follow directions. This will take the hide off of things it does not belong on so read the instructions, be careful, and use an really good plastic spray bottle. Wearing a pair of good chemical resistant gloves and Eye protection (before you open the bottle to do the mix) you can remove the grill and gently spray the coils (I wear a mask also). Be precise and a gentle spray, do not get carried away. Start at the top and work your way down the coils. It may foam up a little, that is the reaction with the oxidation. Let it sit for a minute or so and then flush well with water, low gentle pressure at first starting at the top of the coils to stop the reaction of the acid and to remove the junk the acid removed. You can really get after it after the gentle flush is done, but do not get carried away with something like a pressure sprayer. Manly yes, but also stupid watched a idiot ruin a radiator, fun to watch, expensive to do. Suggest not doing this on your manicured lawn by the way. Can lead to little dead spots.

            But you can see the shine when you get done.

            Good Luck,

            PT








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            Wierd temp gauge thing. 200

            I was going to tell him the same thing. I bet his fins are full of Florida bugs.

            I hose the radiator everytime I do the Timing Belt and have the Fan and shroud off te engine
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          Wierd temp gauge thing. 200

          Sillyfast how old is your thermostat? It may be getting stuck closed or maybe you got one that is not rated for the proper temperature. If it doesn't overheat your probably ok but I understand your worry. I would give it a coolant flush and replace the thermostat also check your clutch fan it may be going bad 20 bucks for coolant and you might get rid of the problem. Its odd that it climbs in stop and go traffic but gets better when your on the highway, that probably means that your thermostat is ok I don't know if they can get partially stuck, I would vote for a coolant flush though.








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            Wierd temp gauge thing. 200

            The super nice copper radiator original to the car blew a hole in the side tank at about 115k. This was about three months ago. I have already done the coolant flush 50/50, the radiator is a newer junkyard blackstone unit from a 94 (I believe) which I cleaned out thoroughly also giving me the chance to get at the engine side of the condensor as well. I spray the condensor and rad fins every time I wash the car. The thermostat works ok. [The thermostat btw fails in the "open" position.] But I might just pull it out and boil it to see what happens.I doubt that's the problem its a whaler 87 degree jobby. Could my water pump be the culprit? It was last replaced at 100k she now has 220k on her. The viscous fanclutch works because I can hear it engaging when under way after idle - sounds like a school bus when the temp goes up.








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              Wierd temp gauge thing. 200

              Thanks everyone for the good input (even though I hijacked the thread. Brickboard people are model interweb denizens.







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