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544 tune up ----in need of distributor 444-544

Well i finished my tune up on the B-18 with as well as rejetting the Weber with jets i machined and bored out myself....runs better than ever. but i found i had no mechanical advance....i tore into the distributor and found both springs broken on the ends. I made new loops and it definately improved the performance but its still not where it needs to be. I am planning on finding another matching distributor and throwing the best of both parts into one. Are there other distributors could i go with (not a new big expensive one)?

Abram








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    I changed to a vacuum advance after a B20 was put in so I think I still have the mechanical advance distributor. It might be good to match the model numbers or at least identify what we have. If the parts are interchangable, I will bet there are a few folks here on the brickboard that will know.
    Dennis C








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      544 tune up ----in need of distributor 444-544

      mine is both vaccuumm and mechanical advance








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        544 tune up ----in need of distributor 444-544

        Abe,
        What are the last three digits of the serial no?

        A good one for the B18 is the centrifugal advance Bosch 003 dizzy, would have come on B18Bs from 1800s up to '67 or so. I'm guessing you might have the 009, also from an 1800.

        Really, just about any B18/B20 dizzy will work. If it's vac retard just leave it off.

        you could take your chances on any eBay Bosch JUFR, get one for around $40; or go to the parts store and order a rebuilt dizzy from a 1974 140 series. That should yield you a 007 mechanical advance unit, second only in my opinion to the B20'd 240 dizzy from '75. Either or those will run you around $125.
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        1966 122s, 1970 142s, 1974 142e... Blue is Beautiful








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          544 tune up ----in need of distributor 444-544

          You wrote "That should yield you a 007 mechanical advance unit, second only in my opinion to the B20'd 240 dizzy from '75. "
          I am not to up on distributors so maybe you can give me some info.
          I have a B18 bored out to 2 liter in my 64 PV with vac advance. What is the advantage of the B20'd 240 mech advance over my vac advance?
          Steve








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            544 tune up ----in need of distributor 444-544

            the '75 B20 distributor is optically triggered.
            For your app, your vac. advance and/or 007 unit would be great as far as advance is concerned.

            What are the last three digits on the Vac Advance dizzy?! That's one chunk of info I'm missing.

            Thanks much,
            -Sean
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            1966 122s, 1970 142s, 1974 142e... Blue is Beautiful








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              544 tune up ----in need of distributor 444-544

              The only number i can find is VJU 4BL 33 followed by a clean blank spot on thr plate. Does that mean anything?
              Steve








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                544 tune up ----in need of distributor 444-544

                That's how they usually come. Sometimes there is a number series that ends in 166. This is a vacuum advance unit that many people favor.
                Bob S.








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                  BoB

                  now I am confused as I have been told the very opposite. That mech advance is the be all and end all. Plus I am having trouble trying to get an electronic replacement for the points because it is vac advance. IPD hasn't an answer or a vac advance B18 or 20 to test one if they wanted to. I am Petrolux tech support to see if they can help. any suggestions
                  Steve








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                    Steve,
                    I'm probably not discerning enough, but I've used both on the same car with the same engine, and I'l be damned if I can tell the difference. As far as I'm concerned it's like some people going for Coke and others swearing by Pepsi. It is much more important that they be in good shape, and as long as they are, they'll do the job you want them to do. Vacuum retard is a different kettle of fish, but if you run them with the vacuum unit disconnected and plugged, they'll do just fine.
                    Bob S.








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                      544 tune up ----in need of distributor 444-544

                      Playing with Distributors isn't really necessary or worthwhile except for a couple of reasons:

                      You have Vac. Retard and it bothers you
                      You motor delivers advance where you don't really need it.

                      For instance, an A cam in a B18
                      A dizzy with advance that ends before say 1500 rpms isn't going to make a lot of difference if the cam is meant for low-end torque. 003 or something which delivers total advance after 3k rpms might be more sensible.

                      A D or K cam, the engine seems to benefit from advance before 1700rpm. Surprise! that's what they came with.

                      C I guess could go either way, largely depends on other aspects of the drivetrain.

                      this is all very subjective. if you time the engine at approx 3k rpms, most if not all the advance is over with, and it's the dynamic timing which is the benchmark for what to expect of the motor. They'll run with any Dizzy that spins the right way, you might not get the whole benefit static timing, but it will work.

                      Personally I prefer the mechanical advance units, with low-end curves, because I swap components relentlessly, and my cars are all pretty much city drivers. My HS6 and DCOE carbs have no provisions for vac. Modular, mechanical things are big pluses for me.

                      But, now I'm putting in a B20F w/ a D cam in the '66, and my B18 003 will be set aside for a 078 vac retard, because the 078 curve is shorter. And my 003 is frankensteined parts.

                      The best dizzy is the one you have that isn't broken!
                      -Sean
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                      1966 122s, 1970 142s, 1974 142e... Blue is Beautiful








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                        544 tune up ----in need of distributor 444-544

                        Sean,
                        I couldn't agree more. It's not that I want to have the last word here, but I'd like to add that for people like me, i.e., ones for whom a little basic knowledge is just about all they are ever going to need, the stuff on ignition on the VClassics and Sw-em sites have been very useful.
                        Bob S.







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