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Insulating the wagon roof . 200

In prepration for the summer I recently installed reflectix foil insulation to my 1990 wagon's ceiling to reduce the radiant heat gain from the cieling . I bought reflectix 2'X25'X1/4"(th) roll for 28$ from Lows.It was attached to the ceiling using 3M Super 77 spray adhesive (9$).I installed double layer of this insulation.I hope it will help in summers although in the wagons the biggest heat gain seems to be from large glass area of trunk area.It was very simple procedure. Here are the steps for the novice like me.

1. Removed handle and the courtsey lights ( Precution :Put tape on exposed connections as they will short when they will touch the bare metal of ceiling ).I left the sun visors and rear view mirror in place as there is really need to remove them.

2. The design of headliner is like a stretched tent . The perimeter is held down by a metal bracket and the stretch in the fabric is because of 4 metals bows which hold the fabric from above. Start removing the fabric from corner by inserting a flat screw driver and pulling out the fabric . There is 1/4" wide black vinyl flat strip at the edge of fabric.

3. To remove steel bow pull down at the centre . It is very flexible . It is kept in bow shape by the walls of the car.

4. Cut insulation to size and put it against the cieling and from one side spray adhsesive . If you spray first and then try to put insulation against ceiling then it can stick in wrong place as this adhesive is very sticky .

5. Putting back the headliner is much easier than removing it.

This was more of a exercise to know how to post pictures .I now can greatly appreciate the efforts of those who post pictures and click them in the first place while working.

Here are some pictures.One key picture which shows how to pull fabric at the edge is missing. These do not capture as much details as would I have liked them to be .

The Metal lip which holds the fabric at the edges

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The bare ceiling with black tar paper ( The factory installed insulation)Note the metal lip running along the perimeter (just above the black trim of window)

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Double layer of insulation installed . It is 1/4" th with total thickness of 1/2" it is not noticable when headliner is put back.

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This is the steel bow which stretches the fabric and holds it from the top

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Regards
Gopesh








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    Insulating the wagon roof . 200

    Thanks for the nice instructions!

    A couple of followup questions:

    Does the car seem any quieter now that you installed the insulation? I know that was not the intent of the project, but I'm planning on trying to quiet down + insulate (for same reason as you posed) my wagon once it thaws out up here. So, either I have to use some fatmat like material up there + insulation, or maybe I can get away with just the insulation?

    Second: once the headliner is out, did it seem like it would be easy to replace the vinyl fabric with something else? Specifically, my headliner is in pretty rough shape, so I was thinking I could take the fastening hardware off the current headliner, and use the current headliner as a pattern to make a new one, and reuse the old hardware. Does this seem feasible to you?

    Thanks again








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      Insulating the wagon roof . 200

      I does not make the wagon quiter.This insulation does not look like that material. Dense polyethylene insulation may be able to give that result anyway I think doors and floor are the main route of infiltration of noise. I looked for what was easily/locally availbale and this one is used for radiant heat .

      There is not much of hardware in the headliner it is a very simple design just like a very shallow tent. The steel bows can be used as it is. You will have to sew plastic flat strip at the edges and create piping at the top through which the steel bows thread. It is very much feasible for one who has some expertise in say sewing clothes. You may be able to find a decent one at junkyard.
      Regards
      Gopesh








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    Insulating the wagon roof . 200

    Thanks for the post. I'm considering doing the same thing, although I've been looking at a bunch of sound dampers too. It looks like the stuff you got is cheaper than those.
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    '92 245, Black & Tan, Virgo Mags, 130K








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    Insulating the wagon roof . 200

    Nice work! And nice pics too.

    One comment -
    You will see that the last pic showing the bow and the headliner fabric is so large that it is off the screen, you need to scroll to see it. This large picture is the one that causes the text to go far to the right also - you need to scroll to see all the text.

    If you will resize that last photo to about 400 x 600 pixels then it will fit on the screen OK for most viewers. And the text will not extend so far to the right either. Of course that's a bit of a project because you would need to upload it again etc. etc.
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    Sven: '89 245 NA, 951 ECU, open-front airbox, E-fan, 205/65-15's, IPD sways, E-Codes, amber front corner reflectors, quad horns. Wifemobile '89 245 NA stock. 90 244 NA spare, runs.








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      Insulating the wagon roof . 200

      Sorry for that, I noticed it too late . All other are 800x600 but
      that one is 2048x1536 . Took some time see how imageshack works and esp then to embed the proper code in the para.
      Thanks for suggestions .
      Regards
      Gopesh







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