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I just ran across this article at the NY Times, and thought I would share it. Great to see a picture of Colin Powell with his 122s.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/04/automobiles/collectibles/04VOLVO.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/04/automobiles/collectibles/04VOLVO.html
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95 850 Turbo, 1965 122 Wagon








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Heh... Anyone else notice that it looks like someone had backed into Gen. Powell's 122? The passenger side bumper overrider is pushed in quite a bit.








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Lurker? 120-130

Ever since I went to the last Volvo meet at Rockleigh NJ, oh, maybe 8 years ago and saw a black 444 (or was it a Sugga) that had purportedly been owned by Colin Powell, I have wondered about his shared obsession with 122s and the like. I discovered the Brickboard a little later, and have wondered whether or not he is one of us, albeit anonymously, or at the very least, a lurker. Now that I think about it, I find it difficult to believe that he doesn't visit this site regularly just to follow the discourse. I mean if he was so afflicted that he was stashing multiple cars at Ft. Myer, he definitely qualifies. He mentioned that as a result of his affliction he has met many interesting people - probably some of you out there. I'm just really curious as to why - what's the source of the attraction? At what point in his life did a 122 enter, and become for him the avocation/mechanical fascination that it's become for me and the rest of us? Me, I want to hear his story about the first encounter that sealed his fate.

It looked like the picture of him was taken recently - in the snow and by a TIMES photographer, so maybe he's still wrenching! Think he's got an overdrive in that wagon? Enquiring minds want to know.












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Here's the article 120-130

If you don't have an account at NYTimes, here is the article and the main picture:

Vintage Volvos Earn Their Stripes (Ask the General Who Owns One)

By JIM MOTAVALLI
PHIL SINGHER became passionate about old Volvos in a rather roundabout way.

“I married into a very clapped-out 1966 Volvo 122S sedan,” said Mr. Singher, 54, who now fixes these cars for a living on Whidbey Island, Wash. “I learned to work on the Volvo out of necessity, but the more I fixed it the better I liked it. My wife’s car was amazingly tough and absolutely reliable. And it was designed to be easy to fix.”

Let’s face it, with a reputation as reliable transportation for safety-minded drivers, Volvos weren’t all that hip in the 1960s. Nobody stuck big yellow flower decals on them. But as baby boomers morphed into responsible homeowners, those boxy Volvos started to look better and better. Their longevity added to the cachet. The company created a High Mileage Club for cars that had traveled more than 100,000 miles, and owners attached the club’s emblems to their cars as a badge of honor.

Mr. Singher has the emblem for his 122S, which has been fully restored. He has also restored a 1967 1800S. The 1800 was Volvo’s period sports car, best known for its dramatic fins and the fact that “The Saint” (played by Roger Moore) drove one on television.

Another Volvo fan is Colin L. Powell. The former secretary of state and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was often found behind the chairman’s quarters at Fort Myer in Virginia tinkering with his cars.

“At one time I had six, stashed at various places around the post so the M.P.’s wouldn’t find them all,” he said in a recent interview. “My usual pattern was to fix them mechanically and then do enough body work to get them through a quick Earl Scheib paint job.

“My cars wouldn’t pass anyone’s magnet test,” he said, referring to how cars are checked for body filler that disguises rust damage, and added, “It’s been great fun and I’ve met a lot of interesting people.”

Mr. Powell’s current pride and joy is a 1966 122S wagon, a car similar to the barely ambulatory wreck that Bill Clinton and Al Gore presented to him at a reception when he retired as chairman of the Joint Chiefs in 1993. “I tried to express my profound gratitude,” Mr. Powell said.

There’s no question that the Volvos of the 1960s — the humpbacked 544; the rounded 122S, often mistaken for a car a decade older; and the curvy 1800, Sweden’s answer to the popular British sports cars of the time — are treasured by many people today.

Supported by an extensive parts network in the United States and Sweden, the cars are more likely to see regular use than just being presented at car shows. They are relatively fuel-efficient, comfortable at highway speeds, relatively safe (Volvo pioneered the three-point seat belt) and not difficult or expensive to maintain.

Detroit design also influenced the 444, which was the first Volvo sized and built with an eye to the export market. Both the 444, which came to the United States for the 1956 model year, and the much-improved 544, which came along in 1959, bore a strong resemblance to the 1941 Ford. And Americans actually started buying them.

Volvo chronology is a little unusual. The updated but still antique-looking 544 was introduced after the 122S, which was much more modern; the Volvo Amazon, which became the 122S in this country, had already begun production in 1956. And the 122S continued for several years after its replacement, the 140 series, was in showrooms.

It was the handsome, if somewhat stylistically dated 122S, that really established Volvo’s name in this country. The four-cylinder 122S, sold in two- and four-door versions as well as a useful station wagon, soon earned a reputation for reliability. The atypical 1800 sports car, with racy styling and tailfins, was introduced in 1961. It was pricey for its time — about $4,000 in 1967.

Volvos were popularly believed to be for pipe-smoking liberal college professors. In a 1985 Doonesbury cartoon, Duke asks Honey how she knows that a potential organ donor for him is a liberal. “They pulled him from a Volvo,” Honey says.

Bruce Potter, president of Volvo Sports America, a club originally set up to cater to 1800 owners, said he did not buy the liberal tag. “Volvos then were for people who didn’t want to make car payments for the rest of their lives. Volvo said it best in one of the old ads — the cars offered the best bang for the buck. They publicized the fact that the average Volvo lived 17 years in Sweden.”

Mr. Potter, a laboratory equipment salesman in Basking Ridge, N.J., owns a 1973 1800ES, the distinctive wagon version of the 1800. Only 8,078 1800ES models were made in 1971-73. Mr. Potter said the price of a fully restored 444, 544 or 122S ranged from $5,000 to $10,000; an 1800 from $10,000 to $25,000; and an 1800ES up to $40,000.

“The loyalty toward these older models is just unbelievable,” said Gretchen Adams of Afton, N. Y., who is vice president of the Volvo Club of America. Ms. Adams’s favorite old Volvo was a rare 445, the delivery/station wagon version of the 444. Other rare models include the fiberglass-bodied 1900 convertible (only 67 produced) and the 123GT, a go-fast version of the 122 introduced in 1967. Fully restored, it would be worth $15,000, Mr. Potter said.

Irvin Gordon of Long Island bought a 1966 1800S coupe and still owns it, having chalked up more than 2.5 million miles and earned a place in the Guinness Book of World Records for owning the world’s most traveled automobile. “If I didn’t maintain the car it would fall apart,” said Mr. Gordon, 67. “As it is, I think the Volvo will outlast me.”

Volvo has a good record of support for its vintage models. “There is a lot of pride involved with most of our old cars,” said Claes Rydholm, Volvo’s designated older model expert in Sweden.

Finding parts is not a big problem. Genuine Classic Parts, a Swedish company, sells them through Volvo dealers. Another Swedish company, VP Auto Parts, also has a large selection. And, of course, there are still many parts cars available.

That’s how Mr. Powell got many of his parts. “I would strip them and stack the parts,” he said. “A lot of people heard I was doing that. Word got around among Volvo aficionados: ‘If you want a starter, see General Powell.’ ”
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Here's the article 120-130

Thanks for the link Herr, but I managed to access the link all the way across the world from here. Glad to see Phil's name mentioned in the article. I have read his "Amazon Resurection" article in VClassics over a million times, and at times when I almost gave up my dad's '74 144 restoration project, I would read his article and be back on the project again. An old Volvo gets you emotionally attached to it if you give it half the chance, right Phil?

I still get questions, that had my dad bought a Mercedes 200E (he did check it out) instead of the 144 in 1974, would I have kept and restored it just like I did the 144? Maybe I would if the Merc community had something similar to the Brickboard. But lets just say I am glad that it was the Volvo he got.
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I tried both addresses posted here and it will not come up for me. Good publicity can be a two edged sword. It's nice to be noticed but we don't want to see our unknown Volvos at Barrett-Jackson next January either.
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Bob Graham NC '65 544, '88 240 wagon, '91 240 sedan








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Oh s**t, the NYT blew our well-kept, private, little secret! Old Volvos have just become a status symbol. I'm going to start looking for a repairable Citroën 2CV. ;-)
Bob S.








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Ha! Bob, I've got your hook-up for when the time comes. Enough for a couple others to jump on the bandwagon too.

I can say with aboslute certainty that Citroens don't make many good impressions.

But people love to make impressions IN them. An Acura did just that today.

Actually with the 142e you might be safe from scrutiny for a while.



and no, that's not a "duche", but my excuse for a wagon. Never a 220 or 145 around when I can afford one!
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1966 122s, 1970 142s, 1974 142e... Blue is beautiful








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You'll be surprised, Sean, how much attention my Road Warior 142E gets in the parking lots. Admittedly, that's usually in a parking lot of a surplus store, and the admirers are most often guys in plaid shirts, work boots, bad shaves and nicotine stains on their fingers - salt-of-the-earth types, so to speak.

I've always had a weak spot for Citroëns, maybe that's because I grew up in the shadow of one of their assembly plants, but, more likely, it's just that their eccentricity appeals to me. Saw this beauty at the Owls Head (ME) Transportation Museum Show last Fall. Looks like your DS is on its way to recovery from its unfortunate encounter.
Bob S.









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Now that is a Citroen that is something other than a lemon!
I think they have been suffering ever since "Porsche's revenge".
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George Downs Bartlesville, Heart of the USA!








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In addition to Powell, I seem to remember reading somewhere once that Cindy Crawford and Matt Dillon both have amazons, but I'm not getting any google results to confirm.








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Matt Dillon is the former owner of Revolvstore in Tucson and he still has
the oldtimers. I think he built one of the first 165s. It was a really
nice-looking wagon.
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George Downs Bartlesville, Heart of the USA!








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Thanks! 120-130

A nice article, I knew Powell had an 1800, but I didn't know about the 122s

The NY Times ought to fix that pic of the "122S Wagon" which is actually an ultra-rare P1900...

Kinda cool to see Phil S. getting some more (inter)national publicity








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Big thanks for the link! My friends wouldn't believe Powell had an Amazon, so this is the perfect piece of evidence. I also love the fact that, just like me, he has a white '66 with original look - although he has a wagon and I have a sedan.

But I mean how cool is it that the photo was taken while he was opening the bonnet (or 'hood' for y'all), eager to display the engine bay... I bet he would have much rather had the photo be all about how clean his engine looks and not about him.

Great link!
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the Finn with the Swede








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Rolling mag had a cover pic of his car in front of the Pentagon a number of
years back when he was chm of the JCS. Somebody wrote in with the comment
"I work at the Pentagon and that pic has to be fake - NOBODY can park there!"
Just depends on who you are!
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George Downs Bartlesville, Heart of the USA!








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Mr. Steuben, unfortunatly the general Brickboard membership can not access the NY Times article because your link asks for a login & password.
Maybe you can copy & paste the Colin Powell article for us later.

Regards, Duck








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avoiding logins 120-130

for future reference, you can use

http://www.bugmenot.com

to avoid creating login/user names for heavily trafficked websites (including nyt.com)








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I clicked on the link and it came right up. I printed it off.
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George Downs Bartlesville, Heart of the USA!








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Try this. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/04/automobiles/collectibles/04VOLVO.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Cheers,

Barry








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Hello All:

The print version had an expanded photo section. I will scan it and post it tomorrow. Also a nice side piece on the 262C called "Rust in Peace."

Cheers,

Jeff Pucillo








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"Rust in Peace" was not very complimentary!
I look forward to seeing the picture section.
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George Downs Bartlesville, Heart of the USA!








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Hello All:

And here it is. Enjoy.

Cheers,

Jeff Pucillo








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