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Funny (or not so) transmission problem 92 940 gl 900 1992

Hi

I have a 1992 940 with auto trans (185,000k). When the car first starts up the trans shifts fine, but when hot it shifts hard into second, all others fine. I also noticed a delay when shifting into reverse, again when hot and not all the time. The engine will rev up then R will engage with a tire chirp. The kick down cable was adjusted not too long ago.

I just bought this car a couple of months ago (upgraded from a 85 240 dl) so I don't know how long the hard shift has been happening. I checked the fluid and it doesn't smell burnt, but I don't know when it was last changed - and it is over full. The level is above the plastic on the dip stick. Could this cause the problem? Any thoughts? I've already had to replace the a/c condenser and the cat converter. I hope this doesn't mean the trans is on the way out!

Thanks in advance

Mark








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    Funny (or not so) transmission problem 92 940 gl 900 1992

    Well what do you know - flushed and replaced fulid to PROPER level it's shifting like a 940. Thanks for the advice spook and mapleleafer!

    Mark








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      Funny (or not so) transmission problem 92 940 gl 900 1992

      Keep an eye on the level because it rose above normal SOMEHOW. Might a servicer or previous owner tossed in an extra quart without checking level first? Hint on figuring this out... you were not driving with normal shifting and excessive fluid height so it didn't happen long before the problem was evident.








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        Funny (or not so) transmission problem 92 940 gl 900 1992

        Well you know I got the car two months ago, and I really only use it once a week or so(mostly highway), so I think it's possible that the previous owner might have done it. I've been having the shifting problem when hot since I got the car, I think I was reluctant to really check it out because I didn't want to find out it was something serious (smart, right?).

        Anyway -As I say I'll keep an eye on the fluid and hope for the best. I loved my 85 240 wagon but it was in need of a bunch of work (steering rack, blower in dash, broken doorhandle, no clearcoat left on the finish). This one seems to be in good shape mechanically (now) and the body is great so...

        Thanks

        M








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          Funny (or not so) transmission problem 92 940 gl 900 1992

          I had no way of knowing how long you've had the car, but now you know why I suggested a previous owner. A checkout by a mechanic probably would have found this when you were buying, but you got lucky - it was a minor cause.

          For all you know, the car may have been sold because the PO had the same fear. Most likely that somebody tossed in an extra quart without checking - or thought they were adding to the engine (you said the fluid was brown) before realizing the boo-boo.








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            Funny (or not so) transmission problem 92 940 gl 900 1992

            Yep good instincts about the new purchase. The thing is I bought this car on the advice of a mechanic I've been using for a long time, I guess he didn't check it out as thoroughly as I thought...


            Ayway thanks for all the input

            M








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    Funny (or not so) transmission problem 92 940 gl 900 1992

    There is a known wear point that affects only 1-2 shift, but it would be harsh when cold too. Inside the hydraulic valve body, one of the nylon check balls can wear out and pass through the small hole it is supposed to seat against. Instead of oil pressure building at a controlled rate, it gets applied harshly to the #2 brake.

    There is virtally nothing in common with 2nd gear and reverse on the AW transmission. It is possible from your description that the sump is overfilled - a true no-no on automatics. It causes the fluid to ride in the rotating parts and turns it into aerated foam. Hydraulics don't like that. The delay into reverse when hot might indicate a worn front pump.

    If your pan was equipped with a drain plug, empty it and put the plug back in. Refill with some name brand Dexron III fluid. Do not use Dexron V. Dropping the pan and changing the filter is optional but not a bad idea. Don't go nuts with full drain, flushing or synthetic fluids until you do a minor fluid change and correct the fluid level to see what you've got. If the troubles are gone or greatly improved, then a refill with fresh fluid might be in order as good PM. If there's no change, the problem is internal wear or damage so there's no sense in wasting $30-50 in fluid that's going to get dumped for a repair.








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    Funny (or not so) transmission problem 92 940 gl 900 1992

    Dear Mark,

    Good p.m. and hope this finds you well. The AW71 transmissions are hard to ruin. One sure way: to allow coolant to get into the automatic transmission fluid (ATF). This happens, when the ATf cooler - part of the radiator - fails, allowing coolant and ATF to mix. Some signs: ATF is cloudy, instead of being clear/rosy red/pink. Coolant overflow tank will show a pinkish film. on top.

    Recommendations: get the tranny flushed with Mobil 1 ATF. You can do this yourself - see the 700/900 FAQs under Site Features. Flushing removes all of the old fluid: 9 Quarts. Have a quart or two spare, to err on the side of caution.

    If the ATF is brown/black, it is dirty. If it is orangey, it is burnt. If it is watery (pink, but watery), it has been overheated. If it is milky, there's coolant in the fluid.

    In any case, part of your preventive maintenance should be to flush the tranny. I'd guess this will ease shifting problems.

    You should also replace the radiator (unless you have documentary proof, i.e., maintenance receipts). These radiators have a 10-year working life. Failure mode: cracks/breakage at the nipples, where the hoses connect, especially at the top.

    Radiator Failure mode: rapid, total loss of coolant. Failure results: overheated engine and a headgasket replacement.

    Hope this helps.

    Yours faithfully,

    spook








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      Funny (or not so) transmission problem 92 940 gl 900 1992

      Thanks spook, that’s encouraging as the fluid doesn't appear cloudy or milky, it is however brown/black. Thanks for the advice about the radiator - I knew they could fail catastrophically, but I didn't realize it was about every ten years.

      I'll try the flushing and see what happens.

      Thanks again for the input!







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