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I have had a lot of people ask about installing power windows in a 240 and I have asked a lot about 240s on this board and have learned a lot. I would like to see a forum that could compile this information, as there is a lot of good things, such as relay upgrads, seat repair, headlight upgrades, power window installs, relays locations, LH fuse ETC. that would serve of some value. Just a thought.
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For what it's worth, I've slowly been compiling information and sending it over to Bill Garland's webpage, and he and I have emailed back and forth a little bit about getting the information at his site either better organized or else doing the dirty work of getting the FAQ together. That said, we, I think like most other people on the brickboard, are fairly busy and haven't sat down to do the work.
What I've put there thus far is only to fill in holes in the 700/900 forum.
I've fooled around a little bit with the new wiki set up - and I'm not sure if it's just the moinmoin wiki generator or what, but I've not found it as easy to use as some other wiki programs. If we all want to agree to use it, though, I'll go with it and we can make some progress.
Zach
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someone claiming to be drewb1e
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I was thinking about doing something similar to this: basic info about 240s, possibly divided into specdific catgories for more advanced topics. I began one a while back but I had no way to distribute it. I couldfinish it, but I have nowhere to host it. I have the beginnings of a page (somwhere) in very simple HTML about the quirks of 240s. If I finish it up, could someone host it?
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I had my son set up a "WIKI" site: http://ebnj.net/volvo/
Anyone can add content and hyperlinks. It allows sophisticated
title and keyword searches and seems easy to use.
Let us know if this works.
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-Cool Volvo- 1982 240 4 Spd OD w/ 238K, 1989 240 5 Spd w/ 227K. Past proud owner of 1966 122, 1968 144, 1970 145, 1972 144, 1980 245
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I'd contact Jarrod were I you... I'm sure he's not got a lot of time on his hands, but I expect he's got a lot of bandwidth with Brickboard, and hosting a FAQ type section would probably save bandwidth in do many duplicate postings.
Just a matter of someone putting together something that would be appropriate...
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-Matt I ♥ my ♂
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Did you mean to ask, 'Why isn't there a 200 FAQ?' This is the 200 forum.
You're not the first to bring this up. But no one has ever taken it upon themselves to compile such a list. The 700/900 FAQ covers a lot of info that applies to the 200. But there is, for example, no information on mechanical FI. And there seem to be quite a number of K-Jet cars still on the road.
Maybe the fact that the Bentley Manual is pretty comprehensive has something to do with it. For some of the most frequently asked questions the most frequently given answer is, 'See Bentley, Section X, Page X.'
I'd settle for a little better search feature. But maybe I just don't know how to use it effectively.
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I haven't been able to really get the search to do what I want since the site redesign.
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re: "...But there is [in the 700/900 FAQ forum], for example, no information on mechanical FI. And there seem to be quite a number of K-Jet cars still on the road. Maybe the fact that the Bentley Manual is pretty comprehensive has something to do with it...."
Ironically, Bentley doesn't help K-jet owners with their F.I. woes -- the Bentley covers cars starting with the 1983 model year -- I think all the K-jet 240's are prior to that, at least those sold in the US market.
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Like Nate mentioned, the turbo 240's used K-jet. The fuel distributor is different and in a different location. The fuel pressure test values are a bit higher.
You can get by using the turbo CI section in Bentley for earlier cars. But you need to know those test pressures. Haynes gives the info for n/a cars.
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posted by
someone claiming to be nate
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Wed Nov 30 05:18 CST 2005 [ RELATED]
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Turbos (thru '85) used K-Jet, and are covered in Bentley. Are the specs different for n/a and boosted mechanical FI? There is also quite a bit of general K-Jet info out there for the VW types.
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I always forget about the turbo's ... I suppose because I've never had the pleasure of owning one. I guess you're right that Bentley would cover K-jet in that context.
My last K-jet was a 1980 (n.a., of course :-). It always seemed simpler than the LH's.
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I think the big differences are the location of the fuel distributor and the pressure test values. K-Jet is pretty much K-Jet but you do need some model specific information.
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The very best resource I've found for k-jet is a manual for Bosch fuel injection systems, published by Bentley, 'Bosch Fuel Injection and Engine Management: Theory of operation, troubleshooting and service' by Charles Probst. ISBN# 0837603005.
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Chris, Dartmouth NS Canada 70 M-B 280SE, 83 245DL, 84 244 turbo, 90 780 turbo, 92 VW Golf, 90 740 Rex/Regina
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Probst is very helpful in understanding and troubleshooting continuous and pulsed systems but it's not make/model specific.
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K-jet is not make-specific either, except for the O2 sensor feedback system. The operating principles are exactly the same (and many of the parts are in fact interchangeable) between Porsche, Audi, VW, Volvo, etc. A clear understanding of how it works as a system is what you need to work on it, Probst provides that.
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Chris, Dartmouth NS Canada 70 M-B 280SE, 83 245DL, 84 244 turbo, 90 780 turbo, 92 VW Golf, 90 740 Rex/Regina
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I realize that Chris. The general principles apply regardless of make. I expressed that in my answers to nate and Ken. I am not disagreeing with you.
Where I'm coming from is summed up by Probst himself. Since you have the book I won't bother to transcribe it here. Third paragraph, Chapter 6, page 3, section 1.1. You do need certain model specific information when adjusting pressure which Probst doesn't provide but rather instructs you to consult the shop manual for your car. I guess most of the time the 'adjustment' is accomplished by replacing a part though.
As I mentioned to Ken, the ideal system, control and rest pressures vary between the normally aspirated 240 engine and the turbo charged engine. And between Volvo and other cars that I'm not familiar with. There's probably some overlapping of the acceptable ranges.
That's all I was saying. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.
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You're right. The three critical pressure test values are something you need, in addition to an overall understanding, to properly diagnose it, and that is specific to each car. I guess my pet peeve with k-jet is so few people understand the principle of it yet try to repair it based solely on testing to see if the numbers match the Haynes figures - and when a value doesn't fit within that range, they'll start throwing parts at it because they don't understand it. I went down that road myself enough times, that I finally sat and studied Probst's book until I got it. From that point refer back to Haynes and the numbers make sense. Sorry about that rant...
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Chris, Dartmouth NS Canada 70 M-B 280SE, 83 245DL, 84 244 turbo, 90 780 turbo, 92 VW Golf, 90 740 Rex/Regina
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Sorry about that rant...
That's okay. My original statement was too broad. I should have been clear about what I was saying.
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