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Any advice would be appreciated! We bought a 1996 850 for my daughter. The car was great, but my daughter was involved in an accident and the car was totaled. She was not injured - go Volvo! Anyway, we replaced the 850 with a 1998 S70. This car drives great but has some "issues". I'll start with the simple thing first.
Keyless Remotes - Does anyone know if you HAVE to go to Volvo to get these programmed? They want $45.00 for the programming.
Code P0108 - the check engine light came on a couple of days ago and a friend of ours hooked the car up to a handheld computer that his shop has and we were given this code. They cross referenced it and thought it is Volvo's code 422. What does the code mean and is the part difficult to replace? Should we run the risk of buying a salvaged one or just getting a new one from Volvo - my friend can get it at his cost for $136.00.
3. Last, but not least, the A/C. We are having MAJOR issues with it. We bought the car with the understanding that it had problems, but that the evaporator would be replaced before the purchase. When we got the car, the A/C was blowing out very cold air. That lasted for 2-3 days. Hot air. Brought it to a shop. They said they refilled the freon and put a sealer and dye in the system. 3 days later - no cold air. Brought the car to our friend who ownes his own transmission business. They checked with a black light and said there was no dye in the system. They filled it with freon and put dye in (n/c to us). The car blew out cold air for about 7 days and then hot air again. While they were checking on the error code, they refilled it again with freon. Blowing out cold air within seconds. It is scheduled to go back to the shop tomorrow. My friend is going to check it out with the blacklight and with a leak detector?
ANY advice is appreciated.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Denise
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Thu Oct 27 09:07 CST 2005 [ RELATED]
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Follow Up -
#1. Volvo programmed the keyless remotes (2) for free.
#2. Code P0108 - A friend used his handheld computer and reset it. The car has been working fine since.
#3. Air conditioner - We finally realized what was wrong. The first shop we took the car to told us they refilled the freon and added dye so that if there was a leak in the future we would be able to figure out where it was leaking. What we discovered was that, although they charged us for adding dye, they never actually did. Later, when we brought it to my friend's shop and they used the blacklight, it didn't appear as though there was not a freon leak. He (my friend)rechaged the system and added dye just in case. Long story short - there was a leak coming from the evaporator. We replaced the evaporator and the car has been working great. Unfortunately, my friend had to take the dash off twice in order to confirm the problem.
The car drives great and the air is blowing cold. Now we have to deal with an oil leak from underneath the car. Any suggestions?
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On the A/C - I had the same issue - but what the dealer told me was that they could only do the "refill and dye job" on my A/C system two times. The bottom line is that the only way to get cold air after that from this dealer is to have the evaporator replaced to the tune of over $1,000. Or...I find a repair shop who will continue to refill the freon, right? Is it worth shopping around at other foreign car repair shops to find a cheaper price to do the evaporator repair? I have to decide if a 98 S70 with 106,000 miles is worth spending $1,000 -
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Oil leaks from under the car can be a number of possibilities....Didn't get if your car had a turbo or not. If it does, it could be the oil return line of the turbo...a simple and cheap fix. If it's the rear main seal, it's a tedious and expensive job...the transmission has to come loose from the engine. Also, it might just be a bad gasket fit on your oil pan bolt. I had a leak last week and it was the aluminum washer on the bolt I just mentioned being off center. When I changed it out, th leak stopped. That's like a 5cent piece....Ask your friend to look there first, and if nothing is found, ask him to clean off all the oil from under the car (steam cleaning is best but may not be practical), then drive it for 10 mins or so in a spirited way and then check under the car again. He may be able to see where the leak is this way. Good luck! ARe you loosing much oil in the engine due to the leak?
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1998 S70 T5 Emarald Green Metallic, 2004 V70 2.5T Ruby Red, Previous Owner of Black '94 850 Turbo Wagon. My cars have been running so well lately they've got me worried.
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posted by
someone claiming to be Bill's S70 T5
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Thu Sep 29 15:51 CST 2005 [ RELATED]
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If you can get the Dealer to program a 1998 S70 remote for $45 I'd get on your knees and thank them. My local Dealer needs a weeks advance notice for an appointment before I pay them nearly $120.00, and I've already bought the remote !
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Damn dealers....I've heard of them doing it for free for some "sweet things," while charging outrageous amounts for others...mine did my eBay remote for $25. Just make sure you take all of your remotes in at once for programming...they are programmed in series (1 after another...up to 3 FOB's), so programming a new one will erase the codes for the older ones that you may have that are already programmed, unless the dealer has them all together.
I responded to a thread just about this issue earlier today for the '98 S/V70's (so, you might want to check that thread out)....ours are different than '97 850's and '99 and up 70 series cars...just our year...go figure.
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1998 S70 T5 Emarald Green Metallic, 2004 V70 2.5T Ruby Red, Previous Owner of Black '94 850 Turbo Wagon. My cars have been running so well lately they've got me worried.
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Bill, depends on the car. The '98 is somewhat easier to program than the '99 and beyond. I've heard the same thing from '99 S70 owners.
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1998 S70 T5 Emarald Green Metallic, 2004 V70 2.5T Ruby Red, Previous Owner of Black '94 850 Turbo Wagon
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posted by
someone claiming to be Peter
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Fri Sep 2 15:31 CST 2005 [ RELATED]
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The alldatadiy site says that code P0108 is "Control Module" (Volvo code ECM1000), but it doesn't say which control module. Have your friend with the code reader clear the fault codes, and see if it comes back.
I agree with what has already been said. If you have dye in the system, and can't see anything with the blacklight, the leak is most likely under the dash in the evaporator. And if replace the evaporator was a condition of the sale, make them prove it was done.
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posted by
someone claiming to be JDR
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Thu Sep 1 09:32 CST 2005 [ RELATED]
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I don't know anything about the code problem or the AC problem, but I did have success programming two keyless remotes on my 1997 850. The basic method (on my '97) is to turn the ignition on - off repeatedly five times in a row and leave it in the on position. Then (within the next few seconds) push one button on each of the keyless remotes and then turn off the ignition. The keyless remotes should then work.
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I have a '98 S70 and tried and tried to use the 850 way to program ours. It did not work. Went to an indy with all kinds of scan tools and that did not work. Finally to the dealer, but ours charged $25 to do it. If you have more than one remote, take them all in...they have to do them all in sequence even if one is already programmed. If done wrong or without all, then programming one will erase the programming for the other.
About the code...You talk about replacing a part, but you never mention which part. So, it would be good to know which part we're talking about...an 02 (oxygen) sensor maybe? Usually the front one goes before the back one...If I'm right about the sensor, then your guy quoted you a decent price. If you trust him, I'd let him do the whole thing. It will save you the headache.
About the A/C. Apparently the guy you bought the car from didn't replace the evaporator but just filled it with freon which leaked out after a few days. The replacement is expensive...about 8 hours of labor (they have to take the whole dash out) to do and most expect to pay about $1000 for this. Some people get away with new freon that contains some sealant, but using it is contraversial. We used it on our old 850 with some success but eventually had to pay the piper. The reason you don't see the dye is because the evaporator is way up under the dash and the only place it drains from is through a small pipe out from under the center of the car. To see the dye, your indy mechanic will have to put a small black light on a stick and put it way up under the car into a little crevice.
I would go back to the guy you bought the car from and complain...ask him to show you the receipts for the evaporator change...and even receipts for the new part purchase.
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1998 S70 T5 Emarald Green Metallic, 2004 V70 2.5T Ruby Red, Previous Owner of Black '94 850 Turbo Wagon
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