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Mobil 1 Extended Performance? 850 1996

Anyone had experience with the new Mobil 1 Extended Performance synthetic? They are claiming 15k miles or 1 year duration between changes and enhanced protection additives over Mobil 1 -- sounds like Amsoil is pushing them a bit.
Always used Mobil 1 10/30 every 5K miles, but extending this is appealing if the new oil really holds up.

96 850T 103k miles








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    Mobil 1 Extended Performance? 850 1996

    The 20 000 km oil change interval recommended for the newer engines seems to cause gumming problems even on full syntetic oil of respectable brands. I have experienced it myself and also seen several postings about it. Seems as if 15000 km could be a good compromize to stay out of trouble caused by contamination...








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    Mobil 1 Extended Performance? 850 1996

    See the long-term study of extended drain intervals of synthetic oils at Paradise Garage. Following is the link. The hard data seems to support longer drain intervals.

    http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/oil-life.html








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      Mobil 1 Extended Performance? 850 1996

      Thanks for the great link! I've made up my mind that 5K changes with Mobil 1 are indeed a waste, going to 10K....








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        Mobil 1 Extended Performance? 850 1996

        Most of the oil change opinions out there are based on wisdom handed down from uncle Charlie and his auto mechanic cheerleaders -- the "it's cheap insurance" crowd that gets a new boat every year out of the deal. Getting hard unbiased data is hard.

        There was an article in Consumer Reports about 15 years ago on car maintenance. I don't have it any more and can't remember the exact year it came out, but what I do remember is this. They used a fleet of NYC taxicabs to test various drain intervals on standard motor oil. All of the car engines were disassembled at the beginning and at the end of the test, with the internal components measured for the amount of wear. As I remember it, the cars were driven about 100,000 miles. They found wear in the cars that had drain intervals longer than 10,000 miles, but little or no wear in the cars with 10,000 or less. Their conclusion was that the old 3000 mile interval was a pile of %&#@. They recommended 5,000 as a general rule just for peace of mind ("cheap insurance" again), but said they saw little or no engine wear on the 10,000 mile cars and therefore no evidence that 10k did any harm. The 15,000 mile interval cars were starting to show their age, however. Remember that this was with regular motor oil, not the synthetic kind, and the cars were big crude American things with Jurassic-era engines.

        Currently, I'm in a 2003 S60 and running on Castrol Syntec. I follow the recommendation of 7500 miles to protect my warranty rights, but I noticed that some European Volvo owners manuals recommend 10,000 miles (16000km) for the same car -- and that's on regular oil. (Maybe Euro oil is formulated differently.) In any case, after the warranty period, I'll extend to something more sensible like 10 to 12k and use Mobil 1.

        Finally, I hesitate to mention it because it's only one man's experience with one car, but I drove a 1983 VW GTi for 11 years. I used Synthoil 100, a synthetic that is no longer available and was advertised and priced as a better grade oil than Mobil 1 -- like $9 a quart. I changed oil at 20,000 mile intervals, and once went (gasp!) 30,000. Filters were changed every 5k and oil topped up. I traded the car after 140,000 miles because of rust and safety issues. At that point it was still getting 30-33 mpg, burning zero oil, and still blowing the doors off the other econoboxes on the road. I drove the little Rabbit pretty hard, but the engine was clearly ready for another 140,000. I wish the rest of it had held up as well; it was fun to drive.








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    Mobil 1 Extended Performance? 850 1996

    There is no reason that ANY synthetic oil will not last 15,000 miles, except racing of course.

    Klaus
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    98 V70Rawd(108Kmi), 95 854T(88K mi), 75 164E(173K mi)








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      Mobil 1 Extended Performance? 850 1996

      Probably agree about the oil itself lasting, but what about buildup of dissolved combustion gunk etc., and or dirt/grit that fills the filter leaves over such a long period?








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        Mobil 1 Extended Performance? 850 1996

        Jack43,

        I use Mobil 1 synthetic and still change the oil every 5K on the turbo.

        Since I use the car for a lot of in town driving and relatively short trips (<10 miles each way) I'm concerned about condensate build-up from lack of burn-off.

        At $5+ a quart it's still less than a new turbocharger or engine.

        Bryan








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        Mobil 1 Extended Performance? 850 1996

        I just installed a new filter on my wife's A4. On the filter it says "20,000 miles or 2 years", engine tolerances are better now than the old cast iron and there are fewer metal parts. Check your magnetic drain plug sometime.

        Klaus
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        98 V70Rawd(108Kmi), 95 854T(88K mi), 75 164E(173K mi)








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    Mobil 1 Extended Performance? 850 1996

    Since it has been on the market for barely 2 months now, not likely that many have racked up significant mileage.

    Interesting to note that Mobil recommends using normal drain interval for cars under warranty, which means that Hyndai owner can't extend the drain for the first 100,000 miles! Also, as best I recall, drain shouldn't be extended for racing (duh), towing, heavy duty--







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