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Flshing arrow 850

I own a 93/94 GLT wagon and just lately, only when the car is started I have had the flashing orange light come on along with the flashing green light with the economy switch. It doesn’t go off and usually resets once the car is parked and driven later. It has never come on whilst in transit. I am waiting on a 2 disc cd covering all 850’s maintenance and repair as I have nothing to work off as yet. I also have no maintenance history regarding this vehicle.


I appreciate any information in relation to this.
Any advice!!!!!!!

Regards,

Si850








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    Flshing arrow 850

    You need to pull the codes that are stored in the trans ecu. Look through the FAQ's on this sight or over at Bay 13 either one or both should have a step by step deal on how to pull the code. Get your codes, do a search on them and if you still have unanswered questions by all mean post them here.

    Mark








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      Flshing arrow 850

      I went on a little contract , in relation to the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS)
      dilemma.As I stated I had a extracted a 2-2-3 code ( Sensor signal too low).
      The flashing arrow only comes on when the ignition is started , it will stay on and wont go off until the car has been parked for sometime. The arrow never comes on in transit.I have also noticed when the arrow flashes the light on the economy/power switch flashes simultaneously. Some times it will not come on at all.However I again checked my A1 socket and extracted another code from the A6 socket(Ignition) 4-1-1( TPS signal from fuel ingection system missing or faulty) Everytime it comes on it is only activated by the ignition. The culprit is now in a stragle hold would you think? I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary with this fault just yet.
      I took some time out and spoke to Volvo Aust and they can offer a new component for $200.00 AU , they also noted that they have not had many of these fail in the past.
      Another supplier told me to leave it alone as playing with it will only cause bigger problems in the future.He said it will not be the TPS that is @ fault.
      Everything is leading to a TPS fault.
      Should I change it out ?
      Also where is some info on resetting the A codes?

      I await your responses

      Cheers,

      Si850








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        Flshing arrow 850

        I have to agree that throttle switches are something you rarely ever do on a white engine but you now have two systems that have picked up a code for a faulty switch. Ohm the damn thing out and see if you can catch it in the act and if so, stuff a new one in it. The method outlined in Vadis is to hook up the break out box and check voltages from the sensor, they should range from .5-4.2 volts. If you do not have all of this stuff on hand your next best approach is going to be to do a sensor sweep and past that a simple resistance check. On a sensor sweep an oscilloscope is hooked up to the two wires that go through the resistor in the sensor, you then open the throttle from closed to full throttle and take a look at your picutre. The O scope will plot it on a grid for you and it should look, more or less, like a diagonal line from left bottom to right upper corners on the screen. You are looking for what is referred to as "drop-out", these are represented in the O scope picture as a place where the line drops down to nothing (this would be 0 ohms), it is also possible to have it spike to infinite (or open) resistance. Past that you can hook up an Ohm meter and see if the numbers climb in a linear fashion or if they have spots where the numbers jump real high or real low.

        That 411 code that you pulled when looked up on Vadis is actually one of three codes that go under the same number, if you had the factory tool it would give you a status message that would let you know "too high too low or open"

        Clearing the codes, well you have figured out how to pull them, clearing them is just as simple. Once you have got the first code to flash out the second time, thus ensuring that you have read all the codes at least once hold the button down for 5 seconds and then release, the light will go out for 5 seconds and when it comes back on push the button down for another 5 seconds and then release. After you release it give it a couple of seconds and then push the button again to see if the codes cleared, if they did you are good, if not repeat it until it clears and pay close attention to your 5 second intervals.

        Mark








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      Flshing arrow 850

      Thanks for the info.I am a bit naive when it comes to the 850's as I am a first timer , but I will endeavour to learn. I reseached how to pull a code. The best information was on a site linked from Ozbrick ,(Matts volvo site).
      As I understand A1 is where all transmission fault codes are stored and A2 are where all engine fault codes are stored.(right??????).
      I followed the step by step senario and extracted a 2-2-3 code which translated to a Throttle Position Sensor (TPS).
      The flashing arrow comes and goes it is not always flashing.
      Where is the TPS located on a 93/94 855 GLT ?
      Can the component be repaired?
      If it can be repaired are there any tips on repair?
      What is the aprox cost in PX ?

      I appreciate any respones from Volvo guru's.

      Si850








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        Flshing arrow 850

        Good job, the 223 codes translates to "Throttle Position Too Low". Running your gear shifter through the gears a bunch can help clean the contacts in the Gear Position Sensor (GPS) but it will do nothing for a TPS. The TPS is replaceable and it is located on the side of the throttle body. Under the hood you should have a plastic cover that is held on by one screw and you can see where the throttle cable goes into the back side of it. It is under this cover that you will find the throttle body and switch. Look here for a picture of that cover. http://www.volvospeed.com/Repair/ftrap.php
        Here is a nice shot of the throttle body as well, the throttle switch is mounted on the outboard side of it. http://www.volvospeed.com/Repair/egr.php

        Truthfully I have never had call to replace a TPS on a white engine. I believe they are a simple sensor and just bolt right up with no adjustment but I do not know this for a fact. Take a look at it and see if there are slotted adjustment holes where the screws go through. I looked through Vadis and found replacement instructions for everything else you can imagine but not the TPS.

        Take a look in sockets A2 and A6 and see if you have any codes there as well. The TPS signal is used in a few different systems so if you are coding in one system often times you will code in the others as well. If all else fails you could check the sensor signal for drops outs or opens. Or pay to have someone do it for you as it takes a good multimeter and preferably an oscilloscope to do it right.

        I just looked at WorldPac and they show a list price of 83.32 and the holes in the sensor are round, not oblonged. I imagine it would be a simple bolt up. If you decide to change it out yourself then I would get a throttle body gasket as well and simply remove the throttle body and give it a good cleaning while I had it out to change the TPS.

        Good Luck, Mark







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