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Identifying Volvo 850 brake parts 850

Hi Volvo owners,

I'm new here but I'm wondering if you could help me sort out the following situation:

In the last 5 minutes of a 3 hour drive to CT to visit the grandparents with our one-year-old son, we found that the front right brake of our used 1996 Volvo 850 sedan made a scraping sound. We took it in to Firestone, who found that the caliper was indeed sticking and informed us that the brake pads and rotors also needed replacement ($$$). We asked for the old parts back and were horrified to see that not only were the brake pads completely gone-- down to the metal-- but the rotors were actually CONCAVE with wear. We hadn't noticed any problems (squishiness or squeaking) from the brakes except for an occasional rubbing sound coming from the front right wheel (which was probably the sticking caliper) that the mechanic at our garage at home had told us not to worry about.

He said this when we took in the car just 6 months ago for a full tuneup and safety inspection. It looks like we were screwed by his garage, and we're hopping mad because we could have been killed. I doubt we can get our money back but if they were negligent we'd like to report them to the state agency that licenses them to do inspections.

Before we do that though I'd like to be fair and make sure that (1) it's not likely that we could have put that much wear on the brakes in 6 months; and (2) the parts that we got back from Firestone are indeed the rotors that came out of our car.

We don't put much mileage on the car-- do errands 2-3 times a week in the city (stop and go traffic); and a 200 mile highway trip every 3 weeks to see our parents. I looked at the rotors, which are rusty, dirty, and worn, and see some numbers on them-- Are these identifying numbers and can they tell me whether they could have come out of a Volvo 850?

I'll be grateful if anybody here can help.








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    Sticking caliper 850

    It pays to put your hand on your wheels after driving, unless you are real heavy on the brake. The way I drive, my wheels never get more than luke warm to the touch. Put your hand right over the lug nuts. If a caliper is sticking, your wheels will be warmer and possibly hot. Recently I observed a shimmy and actual brake lining odor (most people should recognize this from tractor trailers on the highway) - and also a hot wheel. I got to it quickly enough - my pads and rotor were fine but the caliper had to be replaced. On our old 850's sticking calipers seem to be fairly common...








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    Identifying Volvo 850 brake parts 850

    The numbers are probably the minimum rotor thickness that is usually stamped on them. Rotors tend to look nasty and rusted when worn...








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      Identifying Volvo 850 brake parts 850

      6 months is a long time if the calipers were indeed sticking. The brakes may have been fine when you took it in for an inspection, but a sticky caliper could ruin the pads/rotors in as little as 2-3 months. My girlfriend's car wore down a new set of pads in as little as 8 months because the auto parts store gave us rotors that were too short of a diameter, which caused the bottom half of the pads to wear down to the metal while the top half was untouched. I have found it hard to take my car in for brake checks, and have since learned to just check the pad thickness and rotor condition myself. I strongly believe that the bottom line is this: If you can remove the tire from your car, then you are just seconds away from checking your brakes yourself through a visual inspection. Learn to inspect your own brakes yourself (you might even be able to inspect your brakes without removing the wheel, if you have the right type of aluminum wheels with large openings on your car), and you can save future headaches or doubts about the condition of your brakes. As far as finding your local garage mechanic liable, it's pretty hard since he inspected the brakes 6 months before you found the brakes seriously worn. He might have inspected it just as the caliper began to stick, in which 5-6 months is more than enough time to cause the brakes to be in the poor shape they were in when you took it to Firestone. Hope that helps some. Good luck!!








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        Identifying Volvo 850 brake parts 850

        Thanks!! both these replies help. I was going to waste my time trying to identify the rotors with the numbers.

        And it feels better to think that we were not ripped off by the mechanic, although we still won't go there again.

        With respect to inspect brakes myself-- believe me, I'll be doing that in the future! I found a great article here: "Change Your Brake Pads", which discusses how to inspect them and how to change them.


        We may even change our own brake pads the next time they wear down...

        Jean








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          Identifying Volvo 850 brake parts 850

          I always do my own pads and rotors..Zimmerman Rotors and PBR Metal Master Pads.(always do pads and rotors together) Break the pads in properly--no dust, no squeal no rotor warp. Be sure to have a can of PB Blaster as your rotors tend to rust in place. And use the silicon lube liberally. Doesn't take a lot of time, you save a ton of money and you have the peace of mind that you understand your brakes and they were done right.








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            Identifying Volvo 850 brake parts 850

            Thanks Jack,

            I'll keep that in mind next time the brakes need work (hopefully not for a long time!)

            My husband brought up a point though-- if only one of the calipers was sticking should we expect all four to have worn down so quickly?








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              Identifying Volvo 850 brake parts 850

              Can't explain your excessive wear unless you are hard on your brakes--race up to stop lights, ride them while cruising, etc. I commute from 7,200' to 4,200 feet every day and got 70K out of my front rotors/pads and still have the originals in the rear with 103K. You should also flush your brake fluid every 2-3 years as it is hydroscopic (accumulates moisture) and old fluid is an excellent cause of sticking calipers. Motive products has a great pressurizer for flushing brake systems www.motiveproducts.com

              Check out IPD for their brake part kits (pads, rotors, lube). They are a little pricey, but good advice. Excellent prices at FCP Groton

              96 850T 103k miles








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          Identifying Volvo 850 brake parts 850

          Also, here is a great article on Bay 13 in regards to changing the front brakes on an 850. From the pictures you'll be able to confirm the brake parts too:
          http://www.volvospeed.com/850fbrake1.php
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          1998 S70 T5 Emarald Green Metallic, 2004 V70 2.5T Ruby Red, Previous Owner of Black '94 850 Turbo Wagon







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