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slow battery drain- mystery problem 850

I have a '93 850 GLT.

In the past 6 months I have had the problem that if I leave my car parked for 5-6 days in a row it will not start. The longer I leave it sit the less power is left. So that after the 5th day the dummy lights (aka indicator lights) will come on but there is not enough power to turn over the engine but if left longer I won't even be able to get the dummy lights when I turn the key.

I have taken the car to the mechanic THREE times now for this problem.

The first time, they checked the battery, seemed fine, did some other cursory checks everything seemed in order. I suggested since the dome light wasn't working (the switch had broken off) that it might be drawing power without me knowing it. So they replaced the dome light.

A month later when I had occasion not to drive for a week it happened again. Second time I took the car in they checked various things again and found nothing that they could pinpoint that was causing the problem though they said the posts were kind of dirty on the battery and the connection a little lose, so they cleaned the posts and tightened the connection and sent me on my way.

So this Saturday after the car had been sitting for five days it wouldn't start. I jumped it again and took it to the mechanic for the THIRD time. They did various checks and said again they couldn't find anything that should be causing the problem. The mechanic even crawled inside the truck (and managed to accidently lock himself in for a short time apparently) to make sure the trunk light was going off. The mechanic all but flat out refused to put a new battery in because he said he felt no cofidence that would remedy the situation. He did suggest I could either leave the car at the shop for a week and they could see what happens OR I could have it towed in without jumping it the next time this happens and there would be some different tests they could run.

I saw a few other posts about battery drains that seemed to be caused by the glove box light and am considering duct tapeing the glove box plunger down to ensure it is not staying on. Though it seems like my glove box is closing firmly, I don't know how I can be sure. I did feel the light when I parked from getting back from the mechanic and if felt warm but I don't know if that is due to the mechanic doing tests on it or not (I don't live far from the mechanic)

The battery in my car is likely at least 4 years old, if not older. I bought the car about four years ago (used obviously) and have never changed the battery.

I don't know what to do. I don't want to just wait around for the battery to die again before I can remedy the situation but I don't want to put a new battery in if that isn't the problem.

Any suggestions would be helpful.








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    slow battery drain- mystery problem 850

    i have a 96 850 and had same problem went away when i changed my battery








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      slow battery drain- mystery problem 850

      Did you take it to the mechanic and/or do tests on the battery yourself that indicated it had a strong voltage and wasn't bubbling (I think that is what the mechanic said it would do if it was faulty)?

      My mechanic all but flat out refused the change the battery because he believed very strongly the problem was not the battery.

      I am not sure. It seems like a strong probability it could be the battery considering the battery is of unknown age but is at least four years old. I am just trying to be more certain before I shell out the money for a battery.

      Thanks for your reply.








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    slow battery drain- mystery problem 850

    Check with Flo, who was having similar problem.

    http://www.brickboard.com/AWD/index.htm?id=942580








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      slow battery drain- mystery problem 850

      Thanks for the help.








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        slow battery drain- mystery problem 850

        You may want to get the alternator looked at. the last time i experienced the same problem of slow battery drain, the alternator (charger) had given out.








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          slow battery drain- mystery problem 850

          The reason I didn't/don't think it is the alternator is if I drive it on a regular basis (every day or every other day) I don't have the problem, its only when it is sitting for a long period of time.

          I may be mistaken how the alternator works (I am certainly not a gear head by any stretch) but in other non-volvos I have had when the alternator went no amount of driving would re-charge the battery so that if I jumped the car and drove around and then turned the car off I would not be able to start the car again indicating the alternator was not charging up the battery.

          Am I wrong to think it is not likely the alternator?

          Thanks for the reply either way. :)








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            slow battery drain- mystery problem 850

            i initialy had the same thought as you did. if i drive around every day it would not be a problem. but it was.

            in short the alternator was still charging the battery but only minimally as the current going into the battery was very little. so the charging was insufficient. the voltage when measured still fluctuated between the required tolerance. 12.6Vdc~13.2vdc.

            but the current flowing to battery as shown to me by an auto electrician was only 0.5amps and if i had the lights on, it was -0.8amps - meaning the battery was being drained more than the charge could be supplied.








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              slow battery drain- mystery problem 850

              Ah! Thanks for the input. I am going to have a friend check the voltage per another posters suggestion so we can perhaps get to the bottom of this.








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            slow battery drain- mystery problem 850

            You should obtain an inexpensive digital multimeter (about $10) and follow this info I pasted some time ago.
            The following checks may be helpful since you had or may still have dimming lights (including the warning lights). The battery voltage with no load (ignition and everything else off) should be 12.6 V - if at all lower, the battery may have a bad cell or an internal short.

            With a load such as headlights only turned on (ignition off) the battery voltage should drop very little, e.g. to 12.2 to 12.4 V, unless the lights are left on for a half hour or more. If drop is more than this then either the battery was not fully charged at the start of the test or is becoming weak or is not holding its charge.

            With the engine running there should be an overvoltage, around 13.8 to 14.2 volts (measured across the battery terminals) depending on ambient temperature (higher voltage at lower temperature), engine speed, and what electrical loads are operating. A dead charging system will not produce an overvoltage (you might read only 11.5 volts or even less) and a weak one will drop to smaller and smaller voltage, say 13 or 13.2, as various additional loads (lights, wipers, defroster) are turned on. If the charging system appears weak, it is important to check that all connections, particularly grounds, are intact and not corroded. Sometimes due to a bad connection the charging voltage will appear ok at the battery but will be low at some other point. Then the accessory connected at that point might not work well. Sometimes on fuel injected cars the engine will not run well and/or you will get a 'check engine' light due to a poor connection. If with the car running you get 14.8 or 15V at the battery then the system is overcharging and you may have a bad voltage regulator. Various lights on the car may burn out prematurely.







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